Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
Those are never the only jobs available, and if they're the only ones a person is qualified for, it's their issue, not anybody else's. Everybody has the ability to work hard and move up or sideways, and we should support a welfare system that also includes the ability to get an education

Every single person I've ever known who is stuck in shitty low tier jobs are shitty punkass bitches who blame all their problems on other people. Hard workers and good employees are virtually never stuck in this problem. However, that isn't the only dynamic, and we've gotten some problems like single mothers supporting children are stuck in these low tier jobs and can't do much to get out of them. First off, the state or other people are not to blame for people who think it's cool to have babies when they're poor, and a solution to this problem involves things like improving the education system so that nobody grows up believing stupid shit like they don't need no rubbers
1) In some places they are the only types of jobs available.

2) You're implying that being motivated and hard working is something people can just switch on and off, when in reality that's not the case at all. Lots of kids in shitty schools don't have the support network at home to push them, they're essentially allowed to do whatever they want, and on top of that they don't see education as a tool for going anywhere and they don't trust people in authoritative positions.

Also you should drop the anecdotal evidence, I know people who are very hard working who will never move out of the shitty dead end jobs that they are in.

Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
Have a roommate.
Solid solution. Nothing wrong with getting 20 people in a house built for 2.