Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
Yes, quite.

If we try to get villain to fold, and we go all in for twice the pot, and he folds, does that mean it worked? Sure it did, but maybe a pot sized bet would've worked too, and if it didn't, we lose less.

We're not looking for things to simply work, we want the most +ev way of things working.
Well, if you shove for twice the pot and he flips over the nuts, that certainly didn't work.

Notice that none of tradition encountered this problem. And, in fact, was the other side of the table almost every time.