Quote Originally Posted by boost View Post
That being said, I don't see any of the pros standing up for the US players, advocating for them to get equal compensation to RTW players. Greenstein kinda touched on this, but barely. Obv something is better than nothing, and I'd take 50c on the dollar is 50c on the dollar was all I was gonna get. But I definitely wouldn't be particularly happy about it if RTW players get 100% back, while we get shafted.

I guess I just feel that it is fucked up that international players and US players are getting segregated in the repayment process. There seems to be no clear reason for this, and it seems to be that US players are getting the short end of the stick.
Yea, i agree with this. FTR, Durrr has stood up for the US players, but he is pretty much the only one, optimistically that could be because the others are concerned about their connections with FTP in the eyes of the DOJ [Ivey, et al are much more connected than Durrr even if they arent board members]. Pessimistically it is because they are acting in their best short term monetary interests.

Until this interview I was convinced that the US players would get paid back 100% and argued with Max about it a lot, but now Im honestly just not that sure. It really does seem like they are structuring it so that whatever happens with US players is not their fault, although I do see this making it difficult for them to re-enter the US market.

Quote Originally Posted by bikes View Post
i'm hoping since FTP has permission to re-enter the us market if it ever opens again that they will have the business sense to not fuck over future clients. people should be pissed if they less than RTW because imo a lot of full tilts value is in the us market should it ever open again
they dont have permission to re-enter the market, but yea, this is actually a really really good point that i didnt think about before. there is huge value if they are able to re-enter the US markets if regulation occurs. as much as we may hope it to be true, this is not a definite, but it is still something that is clearly in consideration and holds a lot of value. i may be overestimating just how much the public cares, but i see it being a hardsell to get back into the us market if us players arent paid back both from the governments point of view, and from the players [although people still played at UB after the scandal, so who knows].

If their intentions are to simply "flip" the company, then I guess it could make a lot of sense to do it this way, because the new-new-owners could say that they had nothing at all to do with an agreement that hurt US players.

I was feeling pretty good about the whole situation even with the lack of updates, but the news that has been coming up is just putting me on life tilt. How poorly this company was run made me and so many others that spoke so highly of it look like idiots in hindsight.