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[rong]

Slightly random, but regarding Pulp Fiction. You can get the script on the net if you google it, and even just reading it, it's so fucking good, just totally sucks you in. Great for killin some time if some time needs killing.

[philly and the phanatics]

sopranos spoilers

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don't click that link

[philly and the phanatics]

if its tl dr then just scroll to the pictures

[rong]

Awesome link. Confirms what I though. Thanks.

What a series. Not sure if I should avoid a starting a new series for a while to avoid an immidiate comparison followed by the inevitable disappointment.

Considering Sons of Anarchy next. Anyone seem any of it? Any thoughts?

[Hawk]

Sons of Anarchy is good. The 3rd season was a bit of a let down compared to the others, the 4th season was completely awesome. I can't wait for what's next!

[d0zer]

agreeee....S3 sucked but S4 was awesome.

[boost]

I disagree. But I'm too tired to explain why and I can't imagine anyone cares or hasn;t had teh conversation regarding the briefcase before.

I'm pretty sure Tarantino himself said it was meant to be ambiguous.

[kickass]

I'm pretty sure Tarantino himself said it was meant to be ambiguous.

Tarantino's breifcase is a macguffin it's contents are not important to the plot only the fact that it is desirable to the characters. Like the microfilm in old spy movies.
Sherlock was the shit can't wait for series 3

[rong]

I'm pretty sure Tarantino himself said it was meant to be ambiguous.

Eactly. This was not the case with the Sopranos ending.

[boost]

Eactly. This was not the case with the Sopranos ending.

Oh, ok. I thought you thought otherwise. I have not watched the Sopranos, so I don't really know what all is being talked about.

[BooG690]

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I'm really not sure how DanArong or anyone else is arguing that some blog post about the ending gives the "definitive" answer. Chase has said nothing about the ending. Therefore, we don't know. It's still the Pulp Fiction suit case.

[Galapogos]

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I'm really not sure how DanArong or anyone else is arguing that some blog post about the ending gives the "definitive" answer. Chase has said nothing about the ending. Therefore, we don't know. It's still the Pulp Fiction suit case.

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Chase simply hasn't answered the ending for people. But he basically confirmed that the ending isn't ambiguous. He said everything is in the episodes of the last season for you to figure out what happened. Meaning, he had what Tony's fate actually was in mind when he created the finale.

There's also this amazing blog post Ken Jennings wrote a few years ago about the ending that brings up wayyyyyyyy more stuff I never noticed and more stuff than the previously linked blog post brought up. It was a really good read. But he has taken it down since then because he didn't like all the attention it was getting. It was up for a few years though so I'm sure it can be found with some site caching engine.

Also, the stuff people see in Sopranos just blows me away a lot of the time. I never realized what a surface viewer I was with tv shows, until people started writing about all the deeper hidden messages in shows like Sopranos.

[rong]

******************* POSSIBLE SOPRANOS SPOILERS ****************************

I'm really not sure how DanArong or anyone else is arguing that some blog post about the ending gives the "definitive" answer. Chase has said nothing about the ending. Therefore, we don't know. It's still the Pulp Fiction suit case.

Gala pretty much answered this one, but the key difference is the suitcase contents were designed to be unknown and are actually irrelevant. All that matters is that the contents are some impressive shit that Marcellus Wallace wants. Quentin Tarantino said he orinally planned on showing diamonds in it, but then decided not seeing the contents made it more interesting for the viewer.

The last episode of Sopranos may have been a little subtle, but the obvious interprertation becomes more obvious the more you dig and as Gala said, Chase stated that everything is there to figure it out and he was trying to convey a particular outcome so imo any alternative interpretation is clearly just kidding yourself. But then again, I guess subtle is ambiguous for the thick, and a lot of people are pretty thick.

[wufwugy]

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I'm willing to concede that Tony was gat. It was my thought on the first viewing as it's what makes the most sense, but then I saw that there wasn't supposed to be a correct interpretation or something, yet now that I see the creator or whomever said he was trying to tell something non-ambiguous, it pretty much means he was telling the story of tony getting gat

*****

I did not like this show as much as everybody else, and don't agree with all the subtleties. I could be wrong on that since on my first watch I really liked it, but second watch I was fast-forwarding a lot and lamenting how huge of douchebags the chars were. But the insight into character is better with Tony than any other show, I guess. I certainly felt there was a whole load of repetitiveness and swill in the show even though it adhered to HBO standards of still making what should be subpar good.

I find it weird that the top two consensus shows on 2p2 seem to be Wire and Sopranos. I thought that Wire was clearly on a different level than Sopranos, but whatever.

[kickass]

The wire and sopranos are both fucking awesome. I don't agree with what y'all think happened to tony. I think your meant to feel for the first time what it's like to be him. And thats it, it ends like it started in the middle of nowhere. I could easily be missing the point I saw it when it was shown on tv and haven't watched it since. I like my ending tho. T forever

[drmcboy]

wire def > sopranos for me, sopranos had like a 3 year stretch when I just hated everyone on the show. Plus the dream sequences, I'm done with dream sequences forever. last season was terrific though.

did anyone watch the first 3 episodes of The Firm? I used to love reading John Grisham books, and so far this show looks true to form. Supposedly the first season is already approved for a full 22 one hour episodes.

watching, plot is good, writing sometimes terrible. Much like JG! The fast forward in time gimmick is a bad idea imo because it brings damages to mind which features much better acting/writing. And wft are they thinking with the lead's contacts?

But any show with two BSG alums has to be doing something right. plus the chick from deadwood! 4 eps in I'm more or less over the shock of seeing how old Julliette lewis is which helps.

[Galapogos]

Plus the dream sequences, I'm done with dream sequences forever. last season was terrific though.

Sopranos did dream sequences better than any show I have ever seen. They managed to present that surreal "dream logic" and dream continuity that no one else seems to be able to do.

That being said, I fucking hate dream sequences.

[wufwugy]

Dream sequences are inherently flawed in that dreams are just stupid in the first place. In many ways, dream sequences don't have a place in cinema.

I also hated the psychotherapy stuff. It was a whole lot of chaff and was a sort of narration and "tell instead of show" thing. They tried to contrast it to the gangster stuff to show who Tony really was, but it got boring, unimportant, and is a lazy and less powerful way to do it

My recollection on this might not be the best though because I ended up skipping most of therapy on second viewing. It was just that lame I guess

[boost]

The few eps I have watched of the Sopranos, I just remember mind numbing boredom during the therapy scenes.

[Renton]

I thought the therapy scenes were fine.

I'd put sopranos in the top 5 for me somewhere, but six feet under and wire are higher.

[d0zer]

agree with everything renton said, says and has ever said.

[bigred]

agree with everything renton said, says and has ever said.

He said you need to let others battle with your wife

[BennyLaRue]

agree with everything renton said, says and has ever said.

ldo

[boost]

and 'others' is a nickname he gave me while we were roommates.

[rong]

He also said you should play werewolf.

[d0zer]

false prophets everywhere! In renton we trust. RENTONTON

[supa]

Dunno, once I came to the realization that Renton actually might not look like Rick James I lost all faith.

[bigred]

Dunno, once I came to the realization that Renton actually might not look like Rick James I lost all faith.

They're both brown...I can confirm this

[a500lbgorilla]

I was watching House last night and he diagnosed someone as a werewolf. Sick epsidode. Watch it here. http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...et-189740.html

[wufwugy]

speaking of sopranos, this was always one of my favorite madtv sketches

Mad Tv-The Sopranos On PAX TV Parody - YouTube

[BooG690]

^ Wufwugy has redeemed his latest string of shitty posts.

JK Wuf, love you.

[wufwugy]

what shitty posts? you mean the ones i made that brought in several new players for ww or the others i made while drunk trying to get the number up to 25?

[BooG690]

http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ts-189557.html

http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...re-189851.html

http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...es-189848.html

[wufwugy]

old news, drunk news, and your mother

[supa]

Um...Hi I'm wufwugy?

[wufwugy]

i wonder how many people remember why that was said in the first place. or even who said it

[JL]

i wonder how many people remember why that was said in the first place. or even who said it

Not sure, but I'd bet money that it was bigred

[BooG690]

OK, so looking for a specific type of show. The show should have a universal type of humor that doesn't rely heavily on dialogue, verbal communication, etc. Any verbal communication must be in English. Basically, I need a show similar to Mr. Bean.

I'm planning on showing students some video in class as a treat where they have to write what they see, etc. Mr. Bean is perfect. It would be nice to have a back-up.

[rong]

Benny hill? Famous in the UK for his comedy show that would generally culminate in him (bald, old, ugly) being chased around by a group of hot scantily clad young women, but speeded up with silly banjo style chase music. Could also be the ideal intro to your ulterior motives as a teacher.

[BooG690]

When does Mad Men get good?

[rong]

Not in the first episode which is all I gave it.

[BooG690]

I'm watching the Sopranos again...I almost hate this show the second time around.

Janice sucks. She's the worst. She makes me hate the show. This adds to my All Women in Shows Suck theory.

[rong]

Ya I would punch that bitch in the face if she was real and wasn't a soprano and I was a woman beating cunt.

[wufwugy]

I'm watching the Sopranos again...I almost hate this show the second time around.

Janice sucks. She's the worst. She makes me hate the show. This adds to my All Women in Shows Suck theory.

Yeah I always just have to fast forward anything with his sister or mom.

While I commend your assertion that women suck, I'll raise you an Atia of the Julii and Servilia of the Junii, Lucille Bluth, Annie's Boobs and Gettin Ridda Britta, and pretty much the entire female cast of Firefly. Honorable mention: the chicks in Modern Family

Edit: Oh and the super awesome super hot brunette in Freaks and Geeks

[boost]

Game of Thrones female cast crushes pretty hard imo.

[philly and the phanatics]

elaine in seinfeld???!??!?!? shes awesome

[dranger7070]

Rachel from Friends for Tic Tac factor alone.

[Galapogos]

elaine in seinfeld???!??!?!? shes awesome

I didn't like Elaine in the later seasons. Why did she become all bitchy and too good for them all of the sudden? I liked her character more when she was like a cute little sister to them.

It seemed to be timed with her hair. 80's style wall of hair was awesome Elaine, normal wear it down hair was bitchy Elaine.

[bikes]

Shameless is moving up from my Good Tier to my Great Tier.

[d0zer]

I didn't like Elaine in the later seasons. Why did she become all bitchy and too good for them all of the sudden? I liked her character more when she was like a cute little sister to them.

It seemed to be timed with her hair. 80's style wall of hair was awesome Elaine, normal wear it down hair was bitchy Elaine.

yeah but she got way hotter in later seasons when she lost the wall of hair so...might be a wash

[Galapogos]

yeah but she got way hotter in later seasons when she lost the wall of hair so...might be a wash

The episode where she lost the top button for her shirt when she sat too close to the screen in the movie theatre will always hold a special place in the memories of my adolescent self.

[BooG690]

Comedies don't count in my women suck on TV theory.

[rong]

Shameless is moving up from my Good Tier to my Great Tier.

not seen usa shameless, but UK shameless was brilliant and a remarkably accurate portrayal of pikey life in England.

[drmcboy]

Shameless is moving up from my Good Tier to my Great Tier.

+1, really good season, their only problem is they have too many good plots going, could be a 90 minute show.

[wufwugy]

You guys seriously gotta watch Rome. What they did with Atia and Servilia was badass

[BooG690]

I'm finally getting around to watching season 2 of Boardwalk Empire. Just watched episode 3. This season is gonna be awesome.

[kickass]

oh Boog, youve got some good tv coming your way

[kickass]

Just started Alcatraz, good start bit cheese but should be fun, old event horizon Sam Neil in it, badass!

[JKDS]

Can someone recommend a good european/british show? (If its subbed, i can take something thats not in english too).

Theres obv countless examples of old school bbc (anything with the monty python ppl for instance), but im at a loss for newer stuff. I marathoned the fuck out of sherlock and loved it, and am hoping someone can direct me to something else thats equally awesome that ive never even heard of.

[wufwugy]

Coupling and Extras are two fantastic British comedies.

Only the first three seasons of Coupling. After Jeff left it sucked

[kickass]

Coupling and Extras are two fantastic British comedies.

Only the first three seasons of Coupling. After Jeff left it sucked

I agree with all of this!

[mrhappy333]

on netflix, cute show.
Psych (TV Series 2006– ) - IMDb

[bode]

grunching, but has anyone watched How to Make it in America? Wife and I just finished season 1 and its a solid show. Sort of similar to the first couple seasons of Entourage in style with alot of the same team producing/directing. Its a shame that season 3 isnt going to be made.

[rong]

Can someone recommend a good european/british show? (If its subbed, i can take something thats not in english too).

Theres obv countless examples of old school bbc (anything with the monty python ppl for instance), but im at a loss for newer stuff. I marathoned the fuck out of sherlock and loved it, and am hoping someone can direct me to something else thats equally awesome that ive never even heard of.

Shameless is fantastic.

Skins is pretty awesome too.

[rong]

Also, I never watched it, but lots of people raved about the IT crowd.

[Luco]

Also, I never watched it, but lots of people raved about the IT crowd.

The tech support answerphone is epic

"Hello tech support... have you tried turning it off and on again?...have you made sure it's plugged in?... you're welcome, goodbye"

[JKDS]

The IT Crowd - This, Jen, is the internet - YouTube

Gonna watch the IT crowd! Thanks guys

[bikes]

+1, really good season, their only problem is they have too many good plots going, could be a 90 minute show.

Shameless has secured a place in my Great tier.

[a500lbgorilla]

Game of Thrones

[BennyLaRue]

Never heard of it.

[a500lbgorilla]

Boromir is king of the north and gets his head looped off and this other blonde bitch has motherfucking dragons!

Shit is tight.

[JKDS]

Game of thrones tonight!!! Season twoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Just finished The IT Crowd, was indeed amazing. Funnier in the earlier seasons, but still entertaining at the end.

[a500lbgorilla]

Game of thrones tonight!!! Season twoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Just finished The IT Crowd, was indeed amazing. Funnier in the earlier seasons, but still entertaining at the end.

But this guy isn't in the earlier seasons.

WOW A GUN!!! - YouTube

[silu73]

If you liked The Might Boosh you will like "This is Jinsy". It will blow your mind.

[lolzzz_321]

battlegrounds on hulu - kinda like the office meets IT crowd