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[Poopadoop]

Well in the first instance, I was calling you an idiot for your apparent complete lack of social intelligence by making jokes about Zelensky's reaction to mass murders of his own people by the Russians. I'm not surprised it doesn't bother you though.

As for Craig, first of all, it's the police who set the fines for covid breaches. The police are idiots and total suckups to the gov't, there's no doubt about that.

Second, the judiciary is a separate entity than the police. That's why they work in different buildings. Judges tend to be pretty independent. Judges have ruled against the gov't plenty of times. The Good Law project has successfully got a number of decisions against the gov't. But here, the judges ruled for the gov't and now they're suddenly all corrupt toadies of the establishment in your little world.

Bringing up the Assange case is another example of you being ignorant of how the law works. Is it illegal to reveal classified gov't secrets? Yes. Does it somehow become legal if those secrets are embarrassing to the gov't? No. Judges follow the law, not what you think is right or wrong. The judge can't say "yeah well he broke the law but he was sticking it to the man at the time so let's forget the law and let him go."

And third, your main argument defending Craig isn't based on any verifiable facts, but on anecdotal evidence: "I read his blog and I couldn't identify his victims, but I read the BBC and I could." Like your biased n=1 sample should hold more weight to me than high court judge's opinions.

[OngBonga]

btw, actually reading his blog is relevant, because the accusation was the he used "jigsaw identification" to identify the accusers. Funny how those who read his blog have no idea who the accusers are.

It's incredible how these accusers can basically be proven in court to have been lying, yet still get the protection of the state. And it's incredible how someone who failed to identify these people goes to prison while "respectable" journalists don't. I'm not aware of a single person who was even able to identify what constituted the "jigsaw identification" he was accused of, let alone who the accuser(s) are. Literally the only thing I know is that at least one of the accusers is a member of the SNP.

[Poopadoop]

btw, actually reading his blog is relevant, because the accusation was the he used "jigsaw identification" to identify the accusers. Funny how those who read his blog have no idea who the accusers are.

But he was charged and found guilty of it. The court of appeals upheld his conviction. So either a) they know something you don't; or b) they're all toadies of the establishment. With all due respect to your investigative chops, I'm going with a) above.

It's incredible how these accusers can basically be proven in court to have been lying,

Finding someone not guilty of what you accused them of != proving you to be a liar.

yet still get the protection of the state. And it's incredible how someone who failed to identify these people goes to prison while "respectable" journalists don't. I'm not aware of a single person who was even able to identify what constituted the "jigsaw identification" he was accused of, let alone who the accuser(s) are. Literally the only thing I know is that at least one of the accusers is a member of the SNP.

If they're found to be lying in court, they should face perjury charges. Then they can and will be exposed. Until then their anonymity has to be respected. Again, it's not about what you think about the case. The law is the law.


Damn, the more I learn about this guy the more of an attention-seeking crank he seems to be.

Seems he got thrown out of the SNP for trying to be in the SNP and run for another party at the same time.

An insider said Murray would no longer have met the criteria for being an SNP member in March when he said he was a Holyrood election candidate for a rival pro-independence party.

[OngBonga]

Oh and Assange was being held in prison for a charge that Sweden dropped. So yeah, you're the one showing ignorance on this matter.

[Poopadoop]

Oh and Assange was being held in prison for a charge that Sweden dropped. So yeah, you're the one showing ignorance on this matter.

Right, I know nothing about why he was in jail. You have all the facts, I have none.

[OngBonga]

I mean, you're saying it's ok to make jokes about Zelensky being an actor if it's a sarcastic reply, but it's not ok to makes jokes about him being an actor if it's a sarcastic reply to your sarcastic reply.


This is the state of affairs right now poop.