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 Originally Posted by OngBonga
Are we just pretending that Iraq, Afghanistan, and the many other wars didn't happen now?
No, we're just trying to stick to relevant topics. Yes, what happened in Iraq and Afghanistan was also bad. But is Ukraine a threat to the safety of the region or its own citizens? Did the West execute civilians in those wars?
 Originally Posted by OngBonga
This is true. How do you decide if a war is justifiable? Who do you believe?
A war sanctioned by the UN is probably as close to a justifiable one as it comes. I believe the mainstream media, unless there's substantial conflicting evidence from a credible source.
 Originally Posted by OngBonga
Ok, I'm glad you made that clear. But you did argue that you consider Russia to be the bullies and the west to be the bully-stoppers.
If by the west you mean NATO, then yes, in the interaction between Russia and the NATO, they are trying to be the bully-stoppers, but not very effective ones.
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