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 Originally Posted by poop
Anything's possible, sure. But it's hard to believe Ukraine would nuke itself to try to get NATO to come into the war. It just doesn't seem like a wise option, in fact it seems like a pretty ridiculous idea. But hey, why let an idea being ridiculous keep us from entertaining it? Maybe the Queen is this moment signing a pact with her Lizard overlords to deliver all our virgins to them.
You say this right after suggesting Russia might nuke itself. This is what baffles me with you poop. You're not applying your logic equally.
I just explained to you that Bandera was a Ukranian nationalist, and not a Nazi.
Was he involved in the killing of Poles, or the Ukrainian Holocaust? Answer that, then tell me again he wasn't a Nazi.
So it's ok to be the leader of a party that has neo-Nazi members as long as you're not one yourself? Seems you're cutting a fine line here.
No, I didn't say that. So now show me a member of a party that Farage was leader of at the time, where a member was exposed as sympathetic to Nazi ideology, and Farage did not expel that member. Show me that Farage is accountable for Nazis in his party and did nothing.
The faux outrage coming from a guy who keeps trying to find excuses for Putin for the war Putin started is a bit lol frankly.
You're not paying attention. You relentless assume you know my position, and when I make comments that challenge that idea you have, you seemingly ignore them.
I am not making excuses for Putin. I already said that I do not believe for one minute that Putin's motivation for invading Ukraine is denazification. I believe this war is geopolitical, not ideological.
How many UKIP MEPs did we have when we were in the EU? Do you consider UKIP a UK Nationalist (well, English nationalist really) party, with white-supremacy leanings, if not outright white-supremacy?
No. This "white supremacy" thing is bollocks. Very few people people subscribe to such ideology, either in politics or in society. Such parties are minor parties, like the BNP and National Front.
Did UKIP have some wankers for MPs? Sure. Nazis and white supremacists? Not that I'm aware of, and if they were exposed as such, surely they were kicked out of the party.
How did several of them get elected to responsible positions to represent a country that fought the Nazis? We must have a problem with neo-Nazism here too.
Show me someone who got elected despite overtly sympathising with Nazi ideology.
It didn't have Nazi sympathesizers then, or at least that wasn't their motivation for joining Germany in WWII. I've explained that to you at least twice now. If you don't want to believe it, then all I can say is read a book.
Well they certainly have Nazi sympathisers now. And I'm not talking about posh twats who don't like immigrants. I mean skinheads who don't like Jews.
Bandera was a Ukranian nationalist who tried to declare an independent Ukraine and ally it with Germany in WWII. He was definitely right-wing, but he was not a member of the Nazi party.
He was responsible for the deaths of lots of Poles and Jews. He was a Nazi, even if not a member of the Nazi Party.
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