*** Official Politics Shitposting Thread ***

[Poopadoop]

That bit of racism slipped by me.

It's borderline. He didn't say 'all white people', and also he has a point in why use the word at all, and especially when you're talking to a black person? How's it supposed to make him feel to read that word?

Your Serena Donkey Kong comment however was unequivocally racist. And worse, you won't even own it.

[OngBonga]

No, he's going to look like a person scuttling around on the floor.

Yeah I mean that image leaves nothing to the imagination, does it? It's a rat's body with a Jew's head. I'm quite happy to call that blatantly anti-Semitic, and I don't throw that word around casually.

The image of Serena, she only looks ape-like because she's butch and stomping, not because the artist gave her body hair and a tail.

[OngBonga]

and especially when you're talking to a black person? How's it supposed to make him feel to read that word?

I appreciate you might find this incredibly hard to believe, but I forget Jack is black. It makes no difference to me one way or the other.

[Poopadoop]

St Louis has some weird people, but nothing like Portland, OR or Los Angeles. Not to mention NYC or the entire state of Florida.

St Louis is really a friendly city though. You can just walk up to about anyone and start talking to them and end up in a conversation.

E.g.
There's a traffic guard at the construction zone entrance on my way into work who dances around with a big smile and greets everyone as she directs pedestrians and traffic. She's only been there since the semester started a few weeks ago. Her name is Danielle (sp?). I know because I've slowed down enough to thank her and to tell her that her positive energy is kinda an awesome way to start my work day. I asked her name at that time and now we greet each other properly in the morning. She's just a lady doing her job, but I know her name and she knows mine.

Never been to StL. It sounds great though. I've been to L.A. and yeah it is a bit out there.

One thing I miss about living in Canada and the U.S. is the propensity of every single person you run into to engage you in conversation. Here, if you try that people usually just look at you like you're nuts.

[MadMojoMonkey]

Apes don't have tails.

[OngBonga]

Apes don't have tails.

I thought that when I hit submit and read it back. Whatever. Monkeys do.

[Poopadoop]

I appreciate you might find this incredibly hard to believe, but I forget Jack is black. It makes no difference to me one way or the other.

Well maybe if you were a bit more tuned in, you'd take notes and adjust yourself accordingly.

Like when I mentioned being mixed Native-American and you threw out the word 'injun'. Not cool.

[Jack Sawyer]

To be fair, not too many people get worked up if you treat someone nicely for whatever reasons.

There are different levels of racism, and they're not equal.

A brown-skinned person saying, "They guy wont want to do that, 'cause he has brown skin like me" is text-book racism. They're making statements about how someone will behave based solely on skin color. However, there is no negativity there, so it's not likely that anyone crying racism is going to get any attention.

A loud-mouth on the bus ride home yesterday was yelling, "I'm taking all shit from white people today." I was the only white person on the bus, and I was in a good mood, so I turned to face him and I said, "Well, I hope you don't have to take any." his response, "You better stay in your lane." IDK exactly what that means, but I guess he was saying, "Don't be out-of-line," so I clarified, "you said you're taking shit from white people. I hope no white people give you any shit today." He says, "Look. I don't like white people." So I respond with, "Well, I'm sorry 'bout that; I'm in your space." And I just ignored him the rest of the ride. He left me alone after that.

Was that a racist exchange?
He said he doesn't like white people, sure. But he wasn't being aggressive about it. He was saying, "I'm not going to get worked up over racist shit today." His whole point was that he was going to ignore it.

The world is complicated. Plenty of people want to be better tomorrow than they are today. I think that guy was one of them. I hope that being a white person whom wasn't any threat to him and whom respected his space helps in the long run. It certainly didn't hurt me for him to say he doesn't like white people while treating me with respect.

There are different levels of racism indeed.

This particular dude was lowkey racist. Probably also ignorant. I'll never understand the general "I don't like x people", like every person from x group is the same.

But he kept to himself. He didn't act on his racism. E.g. he wasn't calling you derogatory slurs and generally left you alone.

[OngBonga]

Well maybe if you were a bit more tuned in, you'd take notes and adjust yourself accordingly.

Like when I mentioned being mixed Native-American and you threw out the word 'injun'. Not cool.

So you're asking me to treat Jack differently because he's black? Sorry, no, I'm not racist.

Also, you're being disingenuous now. I remember using the word "injun", and the context was me asking you if it's offensive, which actually surprised me, since it has no negative connotations here at all.

[OngBonga]

It's actually the opposite of "not cool" to check if a word is offensive.

[MadMojoMonkey]

Well maybe if you were a bit more tuned in, you'd take notes and adjust yourself accordingly.

Jack's avatar looks like the Dos Equis guy, so I assume he's a closet Mexican.


EDIT: or better still, consider that saying triggering shit in one context is probably not appropriate in any context.

[Poopadoop]

It's actually the opposite of "not cool" to check if a word is offensive.

You may not consciously be racist. But if not, then you are definitely ignorant.

[Jack Sawyer]

Every ooportunity? I have over 17k posts here, I would say the n-bomb is in perhaps ten of them.

LOL it's when the opportunity arises. I have 7K posts on here, 0 mentions

I try to always keep the discourse as civilized as possible.

I do say fuck and shit a ton though.

Aww.
C'mon, man.

Sheesh.

Just an observation. Whenever I see that word used nowadays it's some white dude saying it like trying to be "edgy". And the occasional white supremacist. I hardly ever see it used by literally anyone else.

Quick clarification: the actual word doesn't offend me. I think it's because I'm not American. I just see it as ignorance on the user's part.

It's borderline. He didn't say 'all white people', and also he has a point in why use the word at all,

Yup

and especially when you're talking to a black person? How's it supposed to make him feel to read that word?

No no no no

I appreciate you might find this incredibly hard to believe, but I forget Jack is black. It makes no difference to me one way or the other.

This is great. We shouldn't be looking at color while discussing shit or giving our opinions.

The image of Serena, she only looks ape-like because she's butch and stomping, not because the artist gave her body hair and a tail.

The exaggerated features bro. Osaka's whitewashing. Straight out of Jim Crow era cartoons.

Again, make her more normal in appearance, make Osaka black like she is, no one can complain nor call it dogwhistling

[Poopadoop]

Regardless of anything else on the top of the page, those are some great gifs.

agreed.

Here's a CNN link on the story. Unsurprisingly, it has a lot more detail than a Twitter feed.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/14/polit...lea/index.html

How is President Unhinged going to react to this I wonder?

[Jack Sawyer]

Jack's avatar looks like the Dos Equis guy, so I assume he's a closet Mexican.


EDIT: or better still, consider that saying triggering shit in one context is probably not appropriate in any context.

Stay thirsty my friends

[MadMojoMonkey]

Just an observation. Whenever I see that word used nowadays it's some white dude saying it like trying to be "edgy". And the occasional white supremacist. I hardly ever see it used by literally anyone else.

In StL, not all black people, but only black people still regularly use it to greet each other, so I hear it all the time.

[MadMojoMonkey]

How is President Unhinged going to react to this I wonder?

[Poopadoop]

In StL, not all black people, but only black people still regularly use it to greet each other, so I hear it all the time.

I think we've had this discussion before. Black people in the US have appropriated the n-word for their own use, so that when they say it to each other, it's not offensive. This irks some white people who feel they're being victimized because if they call a black person the n-word, it's seen as racist. The whole thing is about as ridiculous as it gets.

My preferred solution is for white people who feel this way to start calling their white friends 'honky' and know that black people can't call them that. That'll show 'em.

[Jack Sawyer]

There's the hard-r and the non-hard-r, the non-hard-r is the one you often hear among black people

On mobile I have no idea how to quote mmm

[OngBonga]

Turns out the umpire who Serena accused of being sexist and racist also hates white male Croats. He gave Marin Cilic a code violation, too, for smashing his racquet. What a hater. Why can't he let people throw tantrums? Anyone would think it's his job to maintain some sort of order on the court.

[Poopadoop]

Turns out the umpire who Serena accused of being sexist and racist

She only accused him of being sexist, not racist fwiw.

He gave Marin Cilic a code violation, too, for smashing his racquet.

Smashing your racquet usually gets a code violation call. The fact he gave Cilic one here means pretty much nothing.

[OngBonga]

Smashing your racquet usually gets a code violation call.

If you think this applies to Serena, you're sexist.

But not racist though, my bad on that one.

[Savy]

Teh whole Serena thing is actually her being the most awful person in existance and getting away with it because she is the GOAT and black and female.

It's very similar to why Venus williams is allowed to murder.

Literally the only argument that isn't retarded is that men may get away with slightly more violations (i.e. being cunts) than women on court. If this was true (and enough has shown it isn't) the argument would be stop men being cunts nto women tenis players should get more allowance on being cunts.

The cartoon is actually interesting as the whole exaggerated comic style comes across as massively racist because of the history when in reality it's just the over the top cartoonish persona that is being dealt with. I have little sympathy for the person drawing the comic though as it's just a huge lack of awareness.

[Poopadoop]

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[Poopadoop]

In other news, a member of Pussy Riot has been flown to hospital in Berlin with suspected poisoning.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8540156.html

[OngBonga]

I'd be inclined to say the cartoonist was being deliberately provocative, rather than ignorant. I just don't think it's racist.

It's not discrimination. I imagine the cartoonist would have exaggerated the features of whoever he was drawing. It's tabloid crap.

I'll say this... the image looked like Serena.

[OngBonga]

In other news, a member of Pussy Riot has been flown to hospital in Berlin with suspected poisoning.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8540156.html

She also said she thinks Mr Verzilov, who has both Canadian and Russian citizenship, was poisoned for political reasons.

This is probably true, but there's more than one suspect.

[OngBonga]

Some more Russians have fallen ill in Salisbury, too.

The poisoning of a Pussy Riot member... that could totally be the Kremlin. I know they're not a nice bunch of people. But the Salisbury thing... it makes no sense. I mean the images of the guys going through the turnstiles... they were taken at excatly the same time. Exactly. The turnstile appears to be the same one in both images, but even if it's not, that some serious choreography.

[OngBonga]

Pussy Riot... if it's "Novichok", it wasn't the Russians. If it was something that wasn't created in Salisbury (like "Novichok"), then maybe it was the Russians.

[Poopadoop]

The two suspects appeared on Russian TV to say they were just tourists who happened to take a weekend trip from Moscow to see Salisbury Cathedral.

Doesn't sound fishy at all.

[OngBonga]

What's fishy about it? I don't know if you're aware, but Salisbury Cathedral attracts visitors from all over the world. Are you suggesting that two male Russians could not have a historical interest in architecture? They also wanted to go to Stonehenge, which, in case you haven't heard of it, is a World Heritage Site, thousands of years old.

I assume you haven't actually read up on it, because if you had, you wouldn't find tourists doing touristy things to be fishy, rather you'd think it was fishy that the Skirpals turned their phones off and drove out of Salisbury, before the "tourists" arrived in Salisbury. CCTV caught the Skirpals leaving Salisbury, but didn't see them return, even though they must have, because otherwise they couldn't have got poisoned.

The official story if fishy as fuck. The tourists' story is, well, reasonable.

[Poopadoop]

What's fishy about it? I don't know if you're aware, but Salisbury Cathedral attracts visitors from all over the world. Are you suggesting that two male Russians could not have a historical interest in architecture? They also wanted to go to Stonehenge, which, in case you haven't heard of it, is a World Heritage Site, thousands of years old.

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I assume you haven't actually read up on it, because if you had, you wouldn't find tourists doing touristy things to be fishy, rather you'd think it was fishy that the Skirpals turned their phones off and drove out of Salisbury, before the "tourists" arrived in Salisbury. CCTV caught the Skirpals leaving Salisbury, but didn't see them return, even though they must have, because otherwise they couldn't have got poisoned.

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The official story if fishy as fuck. The tourists' story is, well, reasonable.

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[OngBonga]

You do also realise that many, many people take weekend trips away?

Here's something fishy... after they allegedly smeared Novichok on the Skirpal's doorknob, they went into Salisbury and were caught on CCTV window shopping, without a care in the world. That's a pretty convincing getaway, if you ask me. It's what I'd do. I'd just hang around and wait for shit to hit the fan, rather than do one asap and get back to Russia for debriefing.

They say they couldn't go to Stonehenge because of snow. Twitter exploded into a frenzy, saying there was no snow in Salisbury on the 3rd of March. For proof, there were photos of Salisbury city centre on the 4th March with no snow. Let's ignore the drifs on the outskirts. Let's forget the fact that Stonehenge's Twitter feed still has a tweet telling people not to come to Stonehenge on the 3rd of March because of snow. They were lying.

They were seen on CCTV 500 meters from the Skirpals' house, walking along an A-road. That's as close as they were seen there.

There is no evidence at all to suggest they were involved, or at least nothing in the public domain that is compelling.

What do you know that I don't?

[OngBonga]

Don't be a meme freak. Talk.

[Poopadoop]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...oes-not-add-up

[OngBonga]

lol the fucking Guardian.

On Saturday 3 March – which the British authorities claim was the date of a reconnaissance mission – they got to Salisbury train station but say they were driven back by snow, even though local newspaper pictures show people going about their business with little difficulty.

[OngBonga]

The next day they accept they may have been close to the house of Sergei Skripal, the former Russian spy, at the time his home was sabotaged with nerve agent,

The timeline the police have released makes little sense. They arrive around 11.50. By this time, the Skirpals had been seen leaving their house, and were not seen returning for several hours. And they were 500 meters away on an A-road. There must be a fuck ton of suspects if that's fishy.

[OngBonga]

Why such a short stay?

Because the weather was fucking awful. What's that? Russians deterred by weather? Yep, because at home in winter they would have the right clothing. In Salisbury, they were dressed casually.

“We wanted to walk around the city but since the whole city was covered with snow, we spent only 30 minutes there,” said Petrov. “We were all wet.” He added: “It didn’t work out because of the slush. The whole city was covered with slush.” Petrov said they returned to the station and spent around 40 minutes there drinking coffee in the station cafe. “We were drenched up to our knees,” added Boshirov.

The slush they refer to was sleet.

There was snow on the ground but people were going about their business. The Salisbury Journal’s live blog showed that by the time the pair were there the snow on city centre pavements was sparse.

Sparse. Yeah,t hat's what sleet is. In the city, where the council had salted the pavements and cleared the snow, the snow was sparse. On the outskirts, there were massive drifts of snow.

[Poopadoop]

They made two trips to Salisbury, one on the 3rd and one on the 4th. They claim they couldn't walk 15 minutes from the station to the Cathedral on the 3rd because of snow. They had 'slush up to their knees'. So they went back to the station, had a coffee and went back to London. But other people were walking around Salisbury just fine.

Then on the 4th they went to Salisbury again. For some reason they went NW of the city around Skripal's house. No CCTV of them at the Cathedral. Stonehenge was open on the 4th but they didn't go there.

Hmmm...

[OngBonga]

Fuck me, nice work detective. Here's me on Twitter pulling up images of snow drifts on the 3rd, while you repeat what the British authorities say on the matter.

[OngBonga]

...

Once there was some pushback of truth about this on social media, people started triumphantly posting the CCTV images from 4 March to prove that there was no snow lying in Central Salisbury on 4 March. But nobody ever said there was snow on 4 March – in fact Borisov and Petrov specifically stated that they learnt there was a thaw so they went back. However when they got there, they encountered heavy sleet and got drenched through. That accords precisely with the photographic evidence in which they are plainly drenched through.

[OngBonga]

How fishy, they don't know the word for sleet. They said slush.

[Poopadoop]

Fuck me, nice work detective. Here's me on Twitter pulling up images of snow drifts on the 3rd, while you repeat what the British authorities say on the matter.

Amesbury is not Salisbury.

[OngBonga]

Amesbury is not Salisbury.

No, it's right next to Stonehenge, which is near Salisbury.

[Poopadoop]

high temp in Salisbury on the 3rd was 5C. Is that too cold for guys wearing coats to walk 15 minutes through?

No mention of sleet on this graphic either.

https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/...th=3&year=2018

[Poopadoop]

No, it's right next to Stonehenge, which is near Salisbury.

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How does the weather near Stonehenge stop them from walking 15 minutes to Salisbury Cathedral on the 3rd?

[OngBonga]

high temp in Salisbury on the 3rd was 5C. Is that too cold for guys wearing coats to walk 15 minutes through?

If it's pissing down with "slush" and you're soaked through (as images show) then yes.

No mention of sleet on that graphic? Is that evidence?

[OngBonga]

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How does the weather near Stonehenge stop them from walking 15 minutes to Salisbury Cathedral on the 3rd?

I would have thought the image of huge snow drifts barely outside of Salisbury would demonstrate that weather conditions were indeed challenging.

Your case seems to revolve around the idea it's fishy they didn't walk for a mile or two when soaked in sleet. You seem to think that link you provided shows it wasn't sleeting. Well those guys were wet, that isn't in dispute. So the weather was doing something.

[Poopadoop]

Also, Salisbury Cathedral is SE of the station. Why are the two Russians seen wandering around an area that's a 20 minute walk NW of the station on the 4th, near Skripal's house?

[OngBonga]

Also, Salisbury Cathedral is SE of the station. Why are the two Russians seen wandering around an area that's a 20 minute walk NW of the station on the 4th, near Skripal's house?

Fuck knows. Do you suppose that two foreign tourists getting lost is suspicious?

[OngBonga]

Fuck knows. Do you suppose that two foreign tourists getting lost is suspicious?

I've never been to Salisbury, let alone the station. But I have been to many, many train stations in the UK, and it's very easy to step out onto the road and simply walk the wrong way, especially if you're not in any hurry to go anywhere in particular. Maybe they just went whatever way they felt like?

[Poopadoop]

I would have thought the image of huge snow drifts barely outside of Salisbury would demonstrate that weather conditions were indeed challenging.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/Am...d51.068785!3e0

It's not a country road 10 miles north of Salisbury that we're talking about. It's Salisbury city centre. Show some photos of how horrid it was there on March 3rd to compare to the dryish conditions that miraculously appeared on the 4th and you'll have a better case.

Your case seems to revolve around the idea it's fishy they didn't walk for a mile or two when soaked in sleet. You seem to think that link you provided shows it wasn't sleeting. Well those guys were wet, that isn't in dispute. So the weather was doing something.

What's the theory here, the weather on that website was faked? It shows no rain, sleet, or snow on the 3rd.

Show me pictures of these guys in Salisbury fighthing their way through snow and sleet and soaked up to their knees as they claimed if that's your story.

[OngBonga]

If they come out of the station onto Chruchfields Road, and turn right instead of left, they'll do a loop and will be on the A-road heading back into Salisbury. That's one way they could end up on the wrong side.

Easy.

[Poopadoop]

Fuck knows. Do you suppose that two foreign tourists getting lost is suspicious?

if someone happens to be poisoned near where they got lost, yes.

if the rest of their story is also fishy, yes.

Seems easier to believe than the idea they went all the way from Moscow to see S.C. and didn't have a plan for how to get there, but instead just wandered around the city hoping they would find it.

[OngBonga]

It's not a country road 10 miles north of Salisbury that we're talking about. It's Salisbury city centre. Show some photos of how horrid it was there on March 3rd to compare to the dryish conditions that miraculously appeared on the 4th and you'll have a better case.

Salisbury city centre would have been gritted. Dryish conditions miraculaously appearing after horrid conditions? How long have you been in the UK? I remember the weather around this time, albeit in my neck of the woods, and it was indeed fucking horrific. Well, I was loving it, but it was definitely extreme weather for us.

What's the theory here, the weather on that website was faked. It shows no rain, sleet, or snow on the 3rd.

I'm saying that a random weather report is not gospel. This is the UK, rain appears and disappears without warning all the time. If it's cold enough, it will be sleet. This isn't remotely compelling. Faked? Probably not, it was probably just hit-and-miss weather and this report is amateur. Find me something from the Met Office, and maybe I'll listen.

Show me pictures of these guys in Salisbury fighthing their way through snow and sleet and soaked up to their knees as they claimed if that's your story.

I'll see what I can find.

[OngBonga]

if someone happens to be poisoned near where they got lost, yes.

Well I hope evryone else in Salisbury is also a suspect then.

if the rest of their story is also fishy, yes.

It is if you read the Guardian.

Seems easier to believe than the idea they went all the way from Moscow to see S.C. and didn't have a plan for how to get there, but instead just wandered around the city hoping they would find it.

I really don't find this easier to believe than two Russian tourists having a walk around a historical city.

[Poopadoop]

Salisbury city centre would have been gritted. Dryish conditions miraculaously appearing after horrid conditions? How long have you been in the UK? I remember the weather around this time, albeit in my neck of the woods, and it was indeed fucking horrific. Well, I was loving it, but it was definitely extreme weather for us.

cctv footage of them on the 4th was also faked then obv., as they were walking around a dryish city on the 4th. Certainly wasn't huge drifts of snow everywhere.

[OngBonga]

OOh I found this while digging...



Check out those time stamps.

[OngBonga]

cctv footage of them on the 4th was also faked then obv., as they were walking around a dryish city on the 4th. Certainly wasn't huge drifts of snow everywhere.

Of course there wasn't in the city centre. We grit the fucking roads. It is very wet though, you can see that.

[OngBonga]

Any photos of the city on the 4th will not prove it wasn't sleeting, since the ground is wet as fuck.

[OngBonga]

And drifts on the outskirts show it is reasonable they they went back thinking there was a thaw, and realised they still couldn't get to Stonehenge because the thaw hadn't extended to the countryside around Salisbury.

[Poopadoop]

Well I hope evryone else in Salisbury is also a suspect then.

Just because the police aren't retarded enough to think some little old lady that lives down the street from Skripal used a nerve agent to poison him doesn't mean they didn't consider other suspects. If you're them do you not find it a strange coincidence that two Russians came to the city the day before and then again the day of the poisoning, ended up near the victim's house, and have a fishy alibi?

It is if you read the Guardian.

At least I have a source other than a photo from twitter of a place 10 miles N of Salisbury.

I really don't find this easier to believe than two Russian tourists having a walk around a historical city.

There's only one thing to see in Salisbury and they walked in the opposite direction of it.

[Poopadoop]

And drifts on the outskirts show it is reasonable they they went back thinking there was a thaw, and realised they still couldn't get to Stonehenge because the thaw hadn't extended to the countryside around Salisbury.

It's kinda irrelevant, since what's mostly suspicious are the things I keep mentioning: the aborted visit to Salisbury on the 3rd in 'sleet' up to their knees, and the 'wrong turn' on the 4th that just happened to take them close to Skripal's.

I could also mention there's no record of them visiting S.C., but obv. you'll just come back and say the records were purged by the gov't.

[Poopadoop]

OOh I found this while digging...



Check out those time stamps.

You find it hard to believe they walked through two different corridors at the same time when they were travelling together?

[OngBonga]

At least I have a source other than a photo from twitter of a place 10 miles N of Salisbury.

At least you read an article in the MSM and make a judgement on the guilt of two Russians in Salisbury, rather than dig around trying to make sense of it all.

There's only one thing to see in Salisbury and they walked in the opposite direction of it.

Clearly you haven't been to Salisbury either.

[OngBonga]

You find it hard to believe they walked through two different corridors at the same time when they were travelling together?

EXACTLY the same time... and I see no reason to believe it's a different corridor. There should be some kind of identification for this reason, but that is missing.

[OngBonga]

There are slight differences, and the angle of the camera seems slightly different, so perhaps they are different corridors. Still, outstanding choreography. Why didn't they both go down the same corridor?

[Poopadoop]

At least you read an article in the MSM and make a judgement on the guilt of two Russians in Salisbury, rather than dig around trying to make sense of it all.

I don't think there's a lot that needs investigating really. Russian spy defects, gives talks about how Russian intelligence works, gets killed by nerve agent, Russian 'tourists' happen to be seen making suspicious movements at the same time. Doesn't seem to require a lot of my energy trying to see if I can find some little detail in the story that can be construed a different way if I put a tinfoil hat on.

That said, I'm open to actual EVIDENCE that all is not what it seems. You just haven't given me any.

Clearly you haven't been to Salisbury either.

Actually I have, twice. And I stand by what I say.

Name another attraction that exists there.

[Poopadoop]

There are slight differences, and the angle of the camera seems slightly different, so perhaps they are different corridors. Still, outstanding choreography. Why didn't they both go down the same corridor?

Because in airport security you go through the corridor they tell you to go through.

Edit: to be fair, though, i don't really understand where those photos were taken. It kinda looks like the corridor you go down to get on/off the plane, but there's no other people around. Also, like you say camera angles are different so it's prolly two different corridors. Haven't been to Gatwick for a long time though so can't say for sure it's not some other part of the airport, like security or w/e.

[OngBonga]

It's kinda irrelevant, since what's mostly suspicious are the things I keep mentioning: the aborted visit to Salisbury on the 3rd in 'sleet' up to their knees, and the 'wrong turn' on the 4th that just happened to take them close to Skripal's.

I could also mention there's no record of them visiting S.C., but obv. you'll just come back and say the records were purged by the gov't.

This isn't even enough to convince the CPS that there's a reasonable chance of successful prosecution, let alone the media presenting circumstantional evidence as though it is compelling. The media coverage has guaranteed they cannot get a fair trial.

[OngBonga]

Because in airport security you go through the corridor they tell you to go through.

Ah this is the airport, not the train station. Wow, even more impressive that they managed to get caught on camera at exactly the same time. If they're being told to go down certain ones, then they surely have different distances to walk? It seems highly improbable to me that they would get snapped at precisely the same time.

[OngBonga]

Name another attraction that exists there.

There's a castle to the NE.

[OngBonga]

I don't think there's a lot that needs investigating really. Russian spy defects, gives talks about how Russian intelligence works, gets killed by nerve agent, Russian 'tourists' happen to be seen making suspicious movements at the same time. Doesn't seem to require a lot of my energy trying to see if I can find some little detail in the story that can be construed a different way if I put a tinfoil hat on.

That said, I'm open to actual EVIDENCE that all is not what it seems. You just haven't given me any.

You're not open to evidence though.

I don't think there's a lot that needs investigating really.

I'm really glad you don't work for the CPS.

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Salisbury Museum.

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Stonehenge itself counts as "something to do in Salisbury", seeing as it's not far. Maybe they went to look if there were busses running to Stonehenge.