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 Originally Posted by OngBonga
Of course people are denied rights. How would a black person feel if I said to his face that I don't like black people? He would feel offended, and rightfully so. We would sit here and talk about how a black person has the right to go about his business without being subject to such comments. Why is this any different?
Everyone has the right to feel offended.
No one has the right to not feel offended.
 Originally Posted by OngBonga
I'm not making such claims. I remind you again, I was not the one who made the DK analogy, I merely acknowledged it as apt.
C'mon, man. It doesn't matter who said it first, it matters whom agrees with it.
 Originally Posted by OngBonga
Why aren't you telling this to Jack?
If he comes back here making a point that it's perfectly fine to describe black people as ape-like and that should not be considered racism, then what I'm telling you applies equally to Jack. I didn't interpret his statement as making that point.
My point is NOT that you're a racist. It's that you've used racially charged language, and you know that history and you still chose those words, so you're really giving off a racist vibe, even if you don't personally endorse racism.
If it was to troll, then don't act surprised when this conversation ensues.
If it wasn't, then heads up: this conversation is extremely likely to ensue when you do this.
 Originally Posted by OngBonga
I don't expect anyone to think anything. I don't care what people think.
Then why even address us when we criticize your use of words?
 Originally Posted by OngBonga
What's your point?
That you should expect criticism when you use certain words to describe certain groups of people, ignoring the history of those words being used to describe those groups.
 Originally Posted by OngBonga
It's astonishing you're more concerned about me than you are the dude on the bus.
I'm not "more" concerned. My entire point is that there is nuance to racism.
My point to you was that I don't believe you're being racist, but you're still choosing to ignore the history of the words you're using, and it certainly gives the impression of historical racism.
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