*** Official Politics Shitposting Thread ***

[BananaStand]

Sure, just like you agree that any separations are the result of a calculated decision to deter immigrants and asylum seekers by separating them from their children. enforce the border

FYP

[BananaStand]

I agree they would have avoided the cruel and inhumane treatment by following the rules yes. Maybe they didn't know that though, as it wasn't the policy before. Have you thought of that?

no. Any reasonable person knows that you can't just cross an international border wherever and whenever you want.

And it was never the policy to allow that. The punishment was just less severe.

[Poopadoop]

no, sensational baseless claims like "human rights abuser" that have no basis in fact or legal definitions, and that are only mean to illicit negative emotional responses, qualify as demagoguery.

That's EXACTLY the kind of bullshit the word was made for.

Separating children from families without just cause is a form of child abuse according to the demagogues at the UN .

Just because your guy is chiefly responsible doesn't mean the criticism being leveled is demagoguery.

You guys are actually closer to being demagogues because you keep bringing up gangs, child traffickers, and baby rapists lol.

[Poopadoop]

The punishment was just less severe.

Exactly.

/thread

[BananaStand]

Separating children from families without just cause is a form of child abuse according to the demagogues at the UN ..

Criminal prosecution for law-breaking is the textbook definition of "just cause"

Just because your guy is chiefly responsible doesn't mean the criticism being leveled is demagoguery.

He was also the guy chiefly responsible for solving the problem. Maybe you should be madder at the democrats in congress for using these separated families as political pawns and prolonging the problem longer than it needed to be.

You guys are actually closer to being demagogues because you keep bringing up gangs, child traffickers, and baby rapists lol.

No, facts are not demagoguery

[MadMojoMonkey]

Both of your lack of nuance isn't helping.

Trump never gave any order to separate families. Family separation was more of a scandalous accident than anything intentional. Congress thought is said one thing. Then didn't provide any manpower or financial backing to accomplish what it said was policy, and the boots on the ground had to take the orders they were given, running on 1/10 the staff needed and no money for hiring or equipment. POTUS said 'zero tolerance' or whatever, and they did what they could with what they had to follow that order.

Among what they didn't have was adequate staff and record to track all those people. That's the real shitstorm, here. None of this makes the news if the families were reunited after all of this.


This:
Criminal prosecution for law-breaking is the textbook definition of "just cause"

If you think my remarkable comment about the Amish was a non-sequitur, then check this.

Defining justice as the action of laws is fine and all, but not a statement about whether those laws are good or their consequences fair.

[BananaStand]

Defining justice as the action of laws is fine and all, but not a statement about whether those laws are good or their consequences fair.

Fine, I'll elaborate.

A law that says it's illegal to cross the border without a visa, and/or between checkpoints is good.

Misdemeanor prosecution is a fair consequence.

[OngBonga]

Police say they don't know what Visas the Russians were travelling on. But they do know the passports they used.

All the police need to do is ask Border Force.

[BananaStand]

Here's a conundrum of political correctness

My white daughter keeps drawing herself as black in self-portraits in school.

How do I discourage cultural appropriation while supporting her right to self-identify?

I'm actually not bullshitting. This is a real situation I'm dealing with.

[Poopadoop]

lol, even your kid is trolling you.

What is actually wrong with cultural appropriation that you think it needs to be discouraged in principle? Is it too close to being evidence that 'diversity is good' or something?

[BananaStand]

What is actually wrong with cultural appropriation that you think it needs to be discouraged in principle?

I actually don't have a problem with it at all.

Just peer pressure. Apparently I'm supposed to be outraged if white kids dress like ninjas for halloween and all that

[OngBonga]

Cultural appropriation has two important aspects...
- a dominant group adopting behaviours from a minority culture,
- a difference in the context of those behaviours.

It's worth noting that this means that anyone screeching about "cultural approriation" of Japan when someone white dresses in traditional Japanese clothing, they are insulting Japan by suggesting America are the dominant culture.

[Savy]

All kicking off in parliament currently, May giving a speech in a minute. Wonder what she'll say, probably nothing of note. Hoping for a resignation but it ain't happening.

[OngBonga]

Resignation is coming soon, if not today.

[Poopadoop]

I think she'll be gone today or tomorrow. Her Brexit plan was basically 'stay in the EU lite'.

Now hopefully there'll be another referendum and people will realize they've been given the wrong information and Brexit is retarded.

[OngBonga]

That was their plan all along. Create a shit sandwich of a "deal" which will get flat out rejected, go back to the polls, rinse and repeat until we vote how they want us to. It's what they do.

Democracy is dead.

[OngBonga]

Best case scenario is there's another referendum and it's a landslide in favour of leave.

Very optimistic. Looks like we're either staying and we'll have internal unrest, or hard Brexit.

[OngBonga]

I'll say this... if we don't leave the EU, then the half a million or so Remainers who took to the streets (not even enough to cover the winning margin if they had two votes each) will be dwarfed by a real protest.

[oskar]

I'm confident Brexit will go down as the dumbest name given to anything ever.
Wasn't Brexit the thing you guys did in 2016? What are we talking about? How can you negotiate another "Britain exit" deal after britain is already out. What is this? Whatever you're doing, stop calling it that!

[OngBonga]

We didn't leave two years ago. We voted to leave two years ago. We're due to leave in March. Yes the name is stupid.

[Poopadoop]

I'll say this... if we don't leave the EU, then the half a million or so Remainers who took to the streets (not even enough to cover the winning margin if they had two votes each) will be dwarfed by a real protest.

Doubt it. Remain is leading in the polls.

A lot of people who voted Leave now realise how patently stupid it is to leave a customs union. And it only took half the major companies threatening to leave the country to get the point across.

If you thought having bendy bananas laws was bad, you'd rethink that if you leave the EU and the price of everything goes up 10%.

[Savy]

Hopefully Gove stays and goes down with the burning ship, would be horrible for him to benefit from this.

I don't see May leaving, why would anyone want to be PM now? They'll let her burden all the shit, distance themselves and hope things didn't go so badly labour walk the next election. Tbh letting Corbyn gain power now when he wants to leave would probably be optimal, just no path for it.

[OngBonga]

Poop. You have a choice... you can either live independently, in a world where bread costs £1.50 a loaf, or you can live in a cage and get it for 50p.. I assume you want the cage?

[OngBonga]

Doubt it. Remain is leading in the polls.

Yeah. The same polls that told us Remain would win? Same polls that told us Trump would lose?

I would say most people who voted leave are now more bitterly opposed to the EU than they were, and some people who voted remain respect democracy enough and see what's going on, they will vote leave or abstain. Where does that info come from? My arse, rather than Murdoch's arse.

[Savy]

Yeah. The same polls that told us Remain would win? Same polls that told us Trump would lose?

I would say most people who voted leave are now more bitterly opposed to the EU than they were, and some people who voted remain respect democracy enough and see what's going on, they will vote leave or abstain. Where does that info come from? My arse, rather than Murdoch's arse.

You are talking in absolutes. No question exists, if it was a remain/leave question I imagine it'd be close but probably swaying to remain, if it was remain/take this deal I imagine it'd be very strongly remain but then it'd all start up again on leaving. I really don't see another referendum happening.

The polls that predicted remain to win were well within the error margin so that's not exactly newsworth.
The polls that were predicting Hillary were constantly sliding towards Trump towards the end and on top of that she did win the popular vote, I'm unsure of the absolute details of this but I'd be surprised if they ended up being massively wrong.

If you are talking about individual polls that get done then they can say all sorts of shit because lol sample size and all that.

[OngBonga]

Comments are disabled for this video.

I'll fucking bet they are.

[OngBonga]

Hello Kitty doesn't have a mouth because the patriarchy doesn't want Asian women to speak out.

Ignore the fucking fact that the creator of Hello Kitty is... drumroll please... an Asian woman.

[OngBonga]

I'm curious if any of you left leaning folk find this video somewhat alarming.

[oskar]

Do you realize that's literally an 8 year old girl you're criticizing for saying something dumb?

[OngBonga]

Do you realize that's literally an 8 year old girl you're criticizing for saying something dumb?
Do you find this alarming?

Are you pretending to not know these children are being brainwashed?

[OngBonga]

Your instinct is to assume I'm critisising children, and not the people who are teaching these children.

That's your default reaction. To look for something wrong in what I did.

[oskar]

These children are also being brainwashed into thinking Katy Perry is Woody Allen's wife?
Or are you singling one thing out because it fits your narrative.

[oskar]

Dude this is a channel with 5k average views. I get 5k views when I upload some dumbass reply video on an inactive channel with no subscribers. This video has 20k because it got posted on whatever retarded circlejerk board you're reading. If they're brainwashing kids they're extremely inefficient.

[Poopadoop]

I'm curious if any of you left leaning folk find this video somewhat alarming.

I find it amusing that you typed 'asian girls' into youtube, saw this, watched it, then posted it here like it's supposed to prove something.

Have you ever seen a Japanese game show? That is REALLY alarming!

[OngBonga]

These children are also being brainwashed into thinking Katy Perry is Woody Allen's wife?
Or are you singling one thing out because it fits your narrative.

Is that really the best you can do? You must know this is extremely thin as you're typing it.

These little political speeches from these kids are the result of indoctrination. Thinking old men are married to pop stars is the kind of dumb shit children normally think.

[oskar]

For reference, this has a quarter of a billion views.

[Poopadoop]

In actual news, Trump is blaming the wildfires in CA on cheap Canadian timber and people failing to rake the forest. And his advisor has a plan to solve both problems by harvesting dead trees.



Anyone for a house made of rotten wood?

[OngBonga]

I find it amusing that you typed 'asian girls' into youtube, saw this, watched it, then posted it here like it's supposed to prove something.

Have you ever seen a Japanese game show? That is REALLY alarming!

Japan is the greatest country in the world, and their game shows are proof.

[Poopadoop]

Japan is the greatest country in the world, and their game shows are proof.

That's what Soros wants you to think.

[OngBonga]

Anyone for a house made of rotten wood?

I think my IQ is lower than it was before I started watching this.

This should come with some kind of warning.

[OngBonga]

That's what Soros wants you to think.

You do realise you say his name a lot more than I do?

[oskar]

You gotta hand it to them. Could you have thought of a way to turn widespread forest fires that are linked to global warming into a case for dismantling environmental protection programs?

[Poopadoop]

You gotta hand it to them. Could you have thought of a way to turn widespread forest fires that are linked to global warming into a case for dismantling environmental protection programs?

I mean it's fucking brilliant, isn't it? You take a team into a forest with some ropes, find some dead trees that have fallen down, and drag 'em out. You never have to cut another tree again, or fight a forest fire!

[oskar]

[Poopadoop]

Not silly string!!!! Those animals!

[OngBonga]

I know who paid for that silly string.

[Poopadoop]

I know who paid for that silly string.

Is it the same guy who paid that 8 year old girl to spout liberal propaganda on a youtube video only pervs would watch?

[OngBonga]

Actually oskar nailed it with the "retarded circlejerk board" comment, in this case Paul Joesph Watson's youtube channel.

If I wanted to perv over Asian women, I'd go to redtube, not youtube.

[oskar]

Oh that's the tard who said Jim Acosta "physically restrained" the white house aide. That dude's pretty popular, huh? And I thought things couldn't get much more retarded post Milo.

[OngBonga]

Oh that's the tard who said Jim Acosta "physically restrained" the white house aide. That dude's pretty popular, huh? And I thought things couldn't get much more retarded post Milo.

I have no idea if he said that about whoever that dude is. I can't say I watch everything he posts, it's not like I'm a fan or anything. Popular? Yeah, he's already past 70k views on the vid he posted 2 hours ago.

[OngBonga]

The biggest problem with PJW is he works for Infowars. I liked him more before he took that job, when he was just some dude on Twitter.

[oskar]

I knew Trump was bad when I started fondly remembering JW Bush. When I watch this guy, I'm starting to make excuses for Dave Rubin and Ben Shapiro. I blacked out on Ben Shapiro's name, so I typed "conservative debate jew" into google. I'm not proud of it, but his wikipedia did come up first.

[boost]

I knew Trump was bad when I started fondly remembering JW Bush. When I watch this guy, I'm starting to make excuses for Dave Rubin and Ben Shapiro. I blacked out on Ben Shapiro's name, so I typed "conservative debate jew" into google. I'm not proud of it, but his wikipedia did come up first.

This made my night.

Ty.

[CoccoBill]

[Savy]

Couldn't find a brexit thread on first page (I ctrl+f brexit) so just thought I'd lol at May.

Go back to the EU to talk about a backstop that if she got the absolute perfect situation nailed down wouldn't come close to getting through parliament and the EU still lol'd at her and said it's not changing.

[TheSpoonald]

AOC is a hot mess huh?

[TheSpoonald]

Headline in the Washington Post tonight...."Sri Lanka Church Bombings stoke far-right anger in the west"


Riiiiighhht....cause only nazis go to church. WTF???

I wonder why mainstream media, particularly print, is dying, hMMMMM???

[Jack Sawyer]

[OngBonga]

Headline in the Washington Post tonight...."Sri Lanka Church Bombings stoke far-right anger in the west"


Riiiiighhht....cause only nazis go to church. WTF???

How many times do you see the words "Christian" or "Catholic" in these tweets?

Hillary Clinton
✔
@HillaryClinton
On this holy weekend for many faiths, we must stand united against hatred and violence. I'm praying for everyone affected by today's horrific attacks on Easter worshippers and travelers in Sri Lanka.

Barack Obama
✔
@BarackObama
The attacks on tourists and Easter worshippers in Sri Lanka are an attack on humanity. On a day devoted to love, redemption, and renewal, we pray for the victims and stand with the people of Sri Lanka.

Julián Castro
✔
@JulianCastro
On a day of redemption and hope, the evil of these attacks on Easter worshippers and tourists in Sri Lanka is deeply saddening. My prayers today are with the dead and injured, and their families. May we find grace.

[OngBonga]

Compare that to Christchurch tweets, where both Clinton and Obama use the term "Muslim community" while tweeting thoughts and fucking prayers. No idea about the Castro guy, whoever the fuck he is.

These people couldn't be any more blatant if they tried.

[TheSpoonald]

Euphemisms are never an accident

[OngBonga]

Indeed. But what's more striking is their coordinated language. It's like these people got their heads together and made a decision what language to use. "Easter worshippers" is not your usual description, for three people to use that phrase, all Dems (I had to google Castro but I'm the opposite of surprised), speaks volumes.

[TheSpoonald]

Right. Now follow it through. Why are they avoiding using the term Christian, or Catholic? They definitely are.. And it's definitely on purpose. But why??

[OngBonga]

I've been thinking this through all morning. I actually don't know. My best guess is they want to promote sympathy for Muslims, but don't wish to extend that sympathy to other faiths. Either that or it's a full blown coalition with Islam.

[TheSpoonald]

In the marxist narrative, someone has to be the oppressed, and someone has to be the oppressor. For the left, the oppressor is white, male, cis, christian. Therefore none of those four categories can ever be considered victims of anything.

Even with 290 dead bodies, the fucking democrats can't get over their social-justice agenda for five minutes. See the WaPo headline the very next day!! They're worried about nazis or something.!!

So there is a reason they won't say the word "christians". Once they are invoked as victims, the next question is..."who hurt them". And the answer to that is a protected class.

So we have to revamp the whole vocabulary. They do this all the time, but this time it's *really* off the rails.

[Poopadoop]

You guys are quite paranoid. It really isn't a big deal. Everyone in the West knows who worships Easter, it's not like they're trying to keep it a secret ffs.

If they said "these Shawal worshippers" after a mosque got bombed no-one who wasn't Muslim would know what the fuck they were talking about.

And oh, when you cite three quotes as a meaningful sample size, you're not doing very well.

https://www.franciscanmedia.org/pope...cks-in-africa/

[Poopadoop]

Heres one that used both the words 'Catholic' and 'Christian'. Jesus Christ (not mentioned)!

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...-phillipe-isis

[TheSpoonald]

Heres one that used both the words 'Catholic' and 'Christian'. Jesus Christ (not mentioned)!

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...-phillipe-isis

Are you high? That article is about shit being smeared on some church walls.

Ong and I are talking about a coordinated terror attack by religious fanatics that killed 290 people and injured hundreds more.

Get the fuck out.

[TheSpoonald]

You guys are quite paranoid......

https://www.franciscanmedia.org/pope...cks-in-africa/

Yeah Ong. The pope still uses the word "Christians". So everything is ok

[OngBonga]

How does this not infuriate the Christian vote? How do the Dems think they ever get back into power? Is this a waiting game? Just wait until the non-Christian voters are outnumbered?

Christians are amongst, if not the, most oppressed people on the planet. You can't pretend otherwise, especially if you're a person of high influence. Doing so makes you seem insincere and even somewhat sinister.

I don't understand why people are so quick to jump on Trump's dumb comments, while completely ignoring the agenda driven comments form the people they prefer to be in power.

[TheSpoonald]

Dude....you live in the UK. You should get this by now.

Don't ever say anything bad about Muslims, even if they DO something really really bad.

[TheSpoonald]

I'm just gonna say it.......

I'm skeptical of the official story regarding Notre Dame.

[OngBonga]

You guys are quite paranoid. It really isn't a big deal. Everyone in the West knows who worships Easter, it's not like they're trying to keep it a secret ffs.

It is a big deal. It's astonishing really that you're prepared to say otherwise.

[OngBonga]

I'm just gonna say it.......

I'm skeptical of the official story regarding Notre Dame.

Yep me too, but I have to admit, this is paranoia at this stage.

[TheSpoonald]

I don't understand why people are so quick to jump on Trump's dumb comments,

You don't understand? Let me explain it to you. ORANGE MAN BAD!!!

What did he say?