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    Quote Originally Posted by poop
    In evolutionary terms, incest should be repellant.
    Not really. Just because it's bad to reproduce with a close family member, doesn't necessarily mean we naturally find close family members unattractive. There's no evolution reason for that, anyway. It does kind of come naturally, but it's highly likely to be nurture, not nature. Consider Freud's work, where he hypothesises that a young boy goes through a phase where he is fixated on his mother, the Oedipus complex. If evolution insisted we find family members sexually repellent, then this phase of a boy's life makes no sense. Though at college, in psychology lessons I hypothesised that Freud was fucking weird and his childhood emotions were not common in boys of his age, and his work was his attempt to convince himself he wasn't weird. I basically psychoanalysed Freud in GSCE psychology.

    I digress. People who are into incest are less likely to have offspring capable of reproduction, but that doesn't mean shit, because to argue that this is a product of evolution is to argue that someone who is into incest is that way due to genetics, rather than just being fucking weird.

    As for why it's a thing in Japan, they're about as sexually weird as it gets for a culture. Individuals can obviously be way more depraved, but I challenge you to find a weirder population in this regard. It's all the more strange with them because in pretty much every other way they are socially perfect human beings, especially for such a large population.

    The Germans are pretty fucking weird too, though as best I'm aware, they're not into shitting on their sisters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Not really. Just because it's bad to reproduce with a close family member, doesn't necessarily mean we naturally find close family members unattractive. There's no evolution reason for that, anyway.
    Does banging your cousins give the offspring a genetic disadvantage? Are they on average more or less likely to reproduce? That's the evolutionary reason why it's off-putting, the ones finding it repellant have produced healthier kids and had an advantage over those who don't, so that trait has become more common.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoccoBill View Post
    Does banging your cousins give the offspring a genetic disadvantage? Are they on average more or less likely to reproduce? That's the evolutionary reason why it's off-putting, the ones finding it repellant have produced healthier kids and had an advantage over those who don't, so that trait has become more common.
    Yeah there's a long distance between finding a family member attractive and reproducing with them.
    I just think we should suspend judgment on Boris until we have all the facts through an inquiry, police investigation, and parliamentary commission...then we should explode him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoccoBill View Post
    Does banging your cousins give the offspring a genetic disadvantage?
    Does not banging your cousin mean your offspring are not going to bang their cousins?

    Sure, the offspring of sisterfuckers will have less reproductive success on average, but that's not weeding out the incest gene, because there is no incest gene.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    there is no incest gene.
    If this is true, then there's also no no-incest gene. So what stops people from banging the first hot person they come across, even if it's a family member? And why is the incest taboo universal? Did all the world's cultures just happen to agree on an evolutionarily advantageous policy by chance?
    I just think we should suspend judgment on Boris until we have all the facts through an inquiry, police investigation, and parliamentary commission...then we should explode him.
    also,
    I'd like to be called Lord Poopy His Most Gloriously Excellent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Does not banging your cousin mean your offspring are not going to bang their cousins?

    Sure, the offspring of sisterfuckers will have less reproductive success on average, but that's not weeding out the incest gene, because there is no incest gene.
    There's basically no "gene for" anything. It's far more complex than that and there's usually several genes at play for any social or physical trait. If a cousin-banger has offspring, they are a bit more likely to be cousin-bangers too. If a non-cousin-banger has offspring, their likelihood of cousin-banging is on average what's neutral/normal in the gene pool. The differences in likelihood or the likelihood of even passing the gene(s) on are probably very small, but over thousands of generations they can become dominant in the population.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cocco
    If a cousin-banger has offspring, they are a bit more likely to be cousin-bangers too.
    This seems highly contentious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    This seems highly contentious.
    https://modminds.pages.roanoke.edu/2...brother-gross/

    Seems like the case is not 100% settled, as in more research needed, but there's no real good competing theories.
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