Exhibit C:
https://youtu.be/KBN41i_dLIo?t=267
06-19-2020 05:45 PM
#7051
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Exhibit C: | |
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06-19-2020 07:00 PM
#7052
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I've posted this before but I really recommend reading this: https://waitbutwhy.com/2019/08/story-of-us.html | |
Last edited by CoccoBill; 06-19-2020 at 07:03 PM.
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06-20-2020 01:19 PM
#7053
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I saw an interesting perspective on the officer who killed Georgy Floyd. It was that he's also going to have his life taken by the system. The system allowed him to accrue 18 complaints against him and let him get away with all those instances set him up for the instance that would allow him to be in the position he was, doing what he did. | |
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06-20-2020 06:57 PM
#7054
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Today in Reading - BLM protesters demand defunding of police. | |
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06-20-2020 11:38 PM
#7055
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I don't understand what you're trying to say with those 3 thoughts in one post, ong. | |
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06-21-2020 07:23 AM
#7056
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I don't think those demanding defunding of police know what defund the police means. Defunding means to reduce their funding. | |
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06-21-2020 07:25 AM
#7057
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The stabbing incident is unrelated to the BLM protest. It's just that it happened shortly after a protest at the same park, and the irony of the protest being related to a cop killing in USA is not to be ignored. | |
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06-21-2020 10:24 AM
#7058
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The entire annual UK police budget is less than the budget for New York alone. That is roughly 10x the police spending per capita. So when americans say defund the police, they are talking about a police force that has 10x the funding the police force of your country has. Your police force is defunded to a level that is incomprehensible by american standards. | |
Last edited by oskar; 06-21-2020 at 10:49 AM.
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06-21-2020 11:00 AM
#7059
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When people in the country are calling for police to be defunded, the USA budget is irrelevant. All you've done there is emphasise how ridiculous it is for such demands to be heard in this country. | |
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06-21-2020 11:28 AM
#7060
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I don't think you can draw a direct line between something happening a lot of Twitter to something being a prevalent thread in the overall society. | |
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06-21-2020 12:30 PM
#7061
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That's kind of fair, but there are a lot of people who have the acronyms BLM and ACAB in their handles. | |
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06-21-2020 02:31 PM
#7062
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https://twitter.com/NorthernerPNW/st...13465606778882 | |
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06-21-2020 03:02 PM
#7063
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So Oskar, did you catch him? | |
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06-21-2020 03:06 PM
#7064
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In other news, Trump's rally in Tulsa last night did not come close to filling the arena of 19k, even though the event organiser gave out close to a million tickets. Apparently a bunch of kids trolled them by ordering big batches of tickets they had no intention of using. | |
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06-21-2020 03:26 PM
#7065
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You know what's funny? He's still going to win another term. Bank it. | |
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06-21-2020 03:31 PM
#7066
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On one hand you have people saying that the massive increase in policing which lead to mass incarceration for minor crimes has not lead to a reduced crime rate, and that it is a statistical fact that ethnic minorities get disproportionately arrested and sentenced for the same crimes, which shows that there is systemic racism that needs to be addressed quickly and thoroughly. | |
Last edited by oskar; 06-21-2020 at 04:04 PM.
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06-21-2020 03:43 PM
#7067
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06-21-2020 03:51 PM
#7068
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Just looking ahead, by Nov. the US is on pace to have > 250k CV deaths, the economy willl be in either recession or depression, and even the Ds will be hard pressed to lose that election. I wouldn't put it past them, but it doesn't look good for DJT right now. | |
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06-21-2020 03:52 PM
#7069
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Yeah, nothing to see here. | |
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06-21-2020 04:07 PM
#7070
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I mean this is a ridiculous exaggeration. You can't seriously believe that a second Trump term will result in the "destruction of organised life on this planet" any more than I believe that the deranged left taking control means white people will be ethnically cleansed. | |
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06-21-2020 04:26 PM
#7071
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06-21-2020 04:45 PM
#7072
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No, I'm not at all exaggerating. Even other current authoritarian regimes are at least acknowledging that global warming is a problem. They might not work sufficiently hard at solutions, but Trump is actively working against any solution that could stop a catastrophe. He will continue fracking and coal subsidies. He will most likely go to war with Iran and possibly Venezuela over their oil. That will be his plan how to stay afloat. On the domestic side he'll do something along the lines of designating Antifa a terrorist organization, which will enable him to treat subversives like the US treats Iraqi POW. Strip them of all human rights and detain them indefinitely. ICE is an extrajudicial police force that can detain people indefinitely without a trial. Currently they can only do that with brown people, but that can change quickly. | |
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06-21-2020 04:52 PM
#7073
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Trump voters are lunatics. It's a white supremacist administration. It's a pure white administration with a pure white republican congress, a pure white republican senate with 99% white followers in a country that's 20% people of color, and they're calling BLM protestors criminals and thugs. What do you think it is? | |
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06-21-2020 04:56 PM
#7074
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06-21-2020 05:00 PM
#7075
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If you think black people are being treated equal, then you think the reason for their much worse outcomes in life are not systemic. So what are they then? | |
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06-21-2020 05:04 PM
#7076
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06-21-2020 05:05 PM
#7077
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06-21-2020 05:09 PM
#7078
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As for the "worse outcomes in life" of black people... | |
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06-21-2020 05:42 PM
#7079
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In other news, Egypt and Libya apparently on the brink of war. Turkey neck deep in this. More USA/Russia proxy war. | |
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06-21-2020 06:58 PM
#7080
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In that video I posted, the ex-cop is basically saying our job is to fill our quotas, and the way we do it is to go ticket and/or arrest black people whether they've done anything or not. It's an interesting watch, you should check it out. | |
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06-21-2020 07:03 PM
#7081
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06-21-2020 07:08 PM
#7082
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This is why they want to defund the police, btw, and give the money to social services to deal with people in distress instead. | |
Last edited by Poopadoop; 06-21-2020 at 07:11 PM.
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06-21-2020 08:12 PM
#7083
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Whatever happens, I hope these guys keep making videos. | |
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06-21-2020 09:45 PM
#7084
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You'd think someone who we can only assume understands what sexism in society is wouldn't be such a disingenuous witness to the ways society does the exact same things to black people. | |
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06-22-2020 04:38 AM
#7085
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I think the point she's making is that she is treated as an equal, and that's because of the decisions she has made in her life. She's trying to tell black people that they all have that power. You want to be treated as an equal? Stop taking on board the message that you're not an equal then. | |
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06-22-2020 04:49 AM
#7086
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06-22-2020 05:04 AM
#7087
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06-22-2020 07:22 AM
#7088
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06-22-2020 09:32 AM
#7089
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06-22-2020 09:48 AM
#7090
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You mean the discussion about supporting your arguments with evidence? That one? | |
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06-22-2020 09:55 AM
#7091
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And it's not even relevant anyways. You might as well say they're anti-vaxxers. I don't support BLM for its global economic policies, assuming they even exist. It's not like we have a choice between voting in the BLM Party or the Conservatives in the next election. | |
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06-22-2020 10:12 AM
#7092
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06-22-2020 10:23 AM
#7093
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I don't support Hitler for his oppression of Jews, it's his economics. | |
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06-22-2020 10:29 AM
#7094
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06-22-2020 10:30 AM
#7095
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lol, give it up troll. | |
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06-22-2020 10:39 AM
#7096
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06-22-2020 10:41 AM
#7097
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So this idea of posting evidence only applies to me? | |
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06-22-2020 10:51 AM
#7098
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Yeah there's a surprise. | |
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06-22-2020 10:51 AM
#7099
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https://m4bl.org/ | |
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06-22-2020 10:55 AM
#7100
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06-22-2020 10:59 AM
#7101
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06-22-2020 11:04 AM
#7102
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The Telegraph lol. But, what does the Daily Mirror say? | |
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06-22-2020 11:59 AM
#7103
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Have we switched places? It's usually me going "[media source] lol". | |
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06-22-2020 12:01 PM
#7104
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The core message is clear: black people are getting murdered by police at an astonishing rate and in just about every instance it's being covered up, the cops are being protected and nothing comes of it. Not only did the protests not inspire caution, cops ramped it up to 11. Every day people are getting assaulted by cops. Many times completely unprovoked. I can only promote this guy again who collects all the videos of police brutality since the George Floyd murder in a thread and he's almost up to 600: | |
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06-22-2020 12:52 PM
#7105
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Citing the Black Panthers as a violent activist group is just failing to look at history. It is failing to look at the origin of that imagery, and who created it and why. Who spread the idea that they were committing acts of violence? What politicians gained from the decapitating of black leadership structures that both lead to the rise of the Black Panthers, then cut them down, too? | |
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06-22-2020 04:08 PM
#7106
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I don't think there's a single person who reads my comments that thinks I'm informed. I don't need to emphasise it. None of us are informed about the majority of our discussions. You're informed when it comes to physics, poop is informed when it comes to statistical analysis or whatever he does, I'm informed when it comes to the long term effects of cannabis, but when it comes to politics we're all uninformed, because we all base our opinions on what we believe to be true, not what we learn as fact. | |
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06-22-2020 08:02 PM
#7107
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Politics is BS, exactly. When people admit to writing BS laws to oppress their political opponents, that should trigger outrage, and an immediate call for repeal of those laws, but that's just not what has been happening. | |
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06-23-2020 01:28 PM
#7108
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I'm sure I've made this analogy before but what if we both got a group of 100 noobs to play poker. Both groups get the same prep talk, the same starting hand sheet and a friendly slap on the butt, but my group starts off with $200 and your group starts off with $10. This would be representative of the net worth different of white and black families in the US. Which group do you think does better. Would you think it's fair to say that if the $10 group does worse it would have been up to them to do better since it's possible to build a roll from $10? | |
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06-23-2020 01:28 PM
#7109
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Good article. Some of the conversations I overhear in public make me want to curl up and cry. I'm sure a lot of it comes from posts shared on social media and the fact that most people severely lack critical thinking skills and any knowledge or interest in how to rudimentary fact check something. | |
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06-23-2020 01:49 PM
#7110
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Here's Biden's new and improved take on the subject: https://twitter.com/nasescobar316/st...159160321?s=20 | |
Last edited by oskar; 06-23-2020 at 01:59 PM.
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06-23-2020 02:10 PM
#7111
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IDK what those links say, but Biden is just more of the same on this issue. Probably all issues. What a feckless politician. | |
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06-23-2020 02:17 PM
#7112
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I understand if you don't want to engage in social media, but to not accept them as a video platform is weird. You don't need to make an account, you can just click the twitter link and watch the video. I don't understand how that's fundamentally different from YT. | |
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06-23-2020 03:26 PM
#7113
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The only reason I use YouTube on FTR outside of entertainment is to find something I can link directly and embed in the post. I'm not finding news on YouTube, as that's got all the same problems as other social media; I'm finding news, then finding a good way to share that news with my friends on FTR. | |
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06-23-2020 03:26 PM
#7114
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He could shit the bed, the sofa and the kitchen sink and he'll still get the nomination. | |
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06-23-2020 04:45 PM
#7115
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They're not afraid Bernie will lose to Trump, they're afraid he'll win. It's like Labour and Corbyn, only in USA. Good chance Bernie isn't one of "them". | |
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06-23-2020 05:22 PM
#7116
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I don't see how any of that applies to a clip from a Biden rally. It's just Biden rambling incoherently for 30 min. The clip I posted is him saying relating to the crime bill 'doing crack isn't the same thing as people doing cocaine in a nice neighborhood like this' as he is surrounded by white people. It's not viral, there's no reason to believe it's manipulated, there's no commentary. It's completely along the lines of what he always says about the crime bill, which is that it was great and still is great. | |
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06-23-2020 05:25 PM
#7117
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IRL, I started off in the $10 group, and failed to build a roll. I don't blame the system for that, my failures in life are mine. I could've done better in life if I applied myself. That is true of nearly everyone in the western world who doesn't "succeed" in life. | |
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06-23-2020 05:36 PM
#7118
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Ok, got it. | |
Last edited by oskar; 06-23-2020 at 05:38 PM.
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06-23-2020 06:22 PM
#7119
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No, I'm sorry but I'm not in favour of wealth redistribution on racial grounds. It doesn't strike me as an ethical system. If that's what you really expect to happen, then all you're doing is saying "the system is racist against blacks, let's make it racist against whites instead". I don't see how that's a solution. | |
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06-23-2020 08:14 PM
#7120
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Ong, I get that you come from a poor background, and that so do many black people. I get that you don't blame the system for your role in your personal history from that poverty to your current circumstances. | |
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06-24-2020 05:07 AM
#7121
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06-24-2020 12:14 PM
#7122
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Ong. What you keep denying is that poor black people also have to go through all of that you've personally gone through. | |
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06-24-2020 01:41 PM
#7123
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06-24-2020 01:46 PM
#7124
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Here's another question, and I'd kinda like you to be honest. | |
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06-25-2020 11:35 AM
#7125
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It's hard to not consider your continued assertions that there is no difference in society between being a white person or a black person is anything but willful ignorance. In fact, I find it more and more difficult to think so, the more hours I spend studying the history of racism and the stories of black lives. | |
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