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    Oh well, if you're going to laugh at me that totally wins the argument. Reductio ad mockum.

    If you actually have cogent arguments for why he couldn't have faked it, what are they? Saying "too many moving parts" is very vague. How many moving parts do you think there would have to have been? Trump, some high-up in the SS, and the patsy. That's three. Who else do you think would have had to be involved?

    Explain the giant black hole in the SS protection that just happened to occur on the one day a "lone nut" decides to off the Orange Jesus. Are they just having a "bad day" like they did in Dealey Plaza? Explain how Trump gets shot in the ear, bleeds like a stuck pig, then two weeks later his ear is perfectly normal. He obviously didn't cut his ear because there's no wound there. And I already said Trump didn't have to know about real people getting killed, or if he did, it's plausible that he cares more about saving his own fat ass than a few NPCs in PA.

    You can't explain any of these things which is why you resort to being all "harhar tinfoil hat, oh you so dumb I so smart, I know what really happened and you don't," instead of offering up anything that could remotely be construed as evidence.
    I just think we should suspend judgment on Boris until we have all the facts through an inquiry, police investigation, and parliamentary commission...then we should explode him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    You can't explain any of these things which is why you resort to being all "harhar tinfoil hat, oh you so dumb I so smart, I know what really happened and you don't," instead of offering up anything that could remotely be construed as evidence.
    I specifically recall asking you not to be upset.

    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    What's the reason and evidence that the SS was having a bad day? Simple question.
    They're just guys. They've done hundreds of Trump rallies, and all but one were boring as shit. They decided the roof was far (and hot) enough to be outside their perimeter, and it was good enough if the cops handled that. The cops said: This roof is hot as fuck, I'm not going up there... and then this happened. You have one possibility with all those intricate cogs moving to stage an assassination attempt including human sacrifice to make it believable, and the other possibility is cops being lazy/incompetent or whatever, and you're obsessing with the conspiracy theory...

    I'm almost positive Epstein didn't kill himself, but I'm spending zero energy engaging with that because, what's even the point? There's nothing to go on. And you have nothing to go on here either.

    What do you mean: why isn't the ear bleeding two weeks later? Do you have a human body? When do you ever cut yourself and bleed for two weeks. It was a tiny cut, possibly from shrapnel, it healed, end of story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    I specifically recall asking you not to be upset.
    I'm more amused than anything.



    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    They're just guys.
    They're not just guys, they're the Secret Service.

    And yes I get it, on the inside they're still human and capable of making mistakes, even big mistakes. But not a bunch of them at the same time.

    They've got a command center set up somewhere around there that oversees the whole thing; they're in touch with everyone there. I don't know how many people are in it (and they're obviously not going to tell us), but I'm guessing it's more than a couple of guys and a coffeemaker.

    I also don't know how many messages they get during the day that could make them take pause. But, someone sends them a text saying 'look, there's this weirdo walking around with a rangefinder,' and the people in command of security all just go, 'oh that's nice,'. Then a half hour later another text comes in and says 'you know weirdo range-finder guy? Now he's wandering around looking at buildings.' And again they all go 'nothing unusual about that, he's probably just thinking of buying one of those warehouses someday. Ignore him. Send out Agent Orange. It's hot, let's get this shit over with.'




    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post

    They've done hundreds of Trump rallies, and all but one were boring as shit.
    You know most security is boring right? It's not like they're picking off potential assassins left and right at most of these rallies.



    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    They decided the roof was far (and hot) enough to be outside their perimeter, and it was good enough if the cops handled that. The cops said: This roof is hot as fuck, I'm not going up there...
    Please, use your head for just a minute. The SS don't just say to the local hillbilly cops "you're in charge of everything > 149m away from the stage,' and hope the local cops do a proper job of it unsupervised. They give them explicit instructions on where to have people ahead of time, get there a couple of hours in advance and make sure they're following those instructions, and if they're not, they don't let the client out in the open.

    Also, if you're one of these hillbilly cops you don't get to say "i'm not going up there, it's hot out," and if you do you should be instantly fired. And if you're the guy in the command center and someone says 'where's the guy on building 7 (or whatever)' you don't just go 'ah well I guess it was too hot for him.

    And even if that goes unnoticed, you don't have to be physically on the roof to cover it with a rifle. They can see the whole roof from the 2nd story building next door where they have snipers stationed. But yet, Crooks gets up there, crawls around for who-knows-how-long with all the yokels yelling 'he's on the roof! he's got a gun!' and nothing happens until he lets off eight rounds at Agent Orange. Come on.



    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    You have one possibility with all those intricate cogs moving to stage an assassination attempt
    Why do you need all these intricate cogs? You need one person in charge of security deliberately letting him slip through.



    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    including human sacrifice
    Right, because if there's one thing psychopaths in power care about it's the lives of innocent people.



    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    I'm almost positive Epstein didn't kill himself,
    Now who's the conspiracy nut?




    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    but I'm spending zero energy engaging with that because, what's even the point?
    If there's no point engaging in things you don't have the answers to, then why do you keep posting about this?




    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    And you have nothing to go on here either.
    I have questions that aren't being satisfactorily answered. I also know this kind of thing has happened in the past.



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    Do you have a human body?
    Most days.



    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    When do you ever cut yourself and bleed for two weeks. It was a tiny cut, possibly from shrapnel, it healed, end of story.
    If it was a tiny cut that is invisible two weeks later, why did it bleed so much? Is Trump a hemophiliac? God, I hope he never nicks himself shaving, he'll need an emergency transfusion.
    I just think we should suspend judgment on Boris until we have all the facts through an inquiry, police investigation, and parliamentary commission...then we should explode him.
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    I'd like to be called Lord Poopy His Most Gloriously Excellent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Please, use your head for just a minute.

    Right, because if there's one thing psychopaths in power care about it's the lives of innocent people.

    Now who's the conspiracy nut?

    If there's no point engaging in things you don't have the answers to, then why do you keep posting about this?
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    and oskar... please don't take his bait.

    "Do you have a human body?"
    is right there in tone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    4 examples of a lack of respect


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    and oskar... please don't take his bait.

    "Do you have a human body?"
    is right there in tone.

    So when I make a joke it's completely rude and disrespectful, but when someone else does it's the proper tone. Rigggggghtt.
    I just think we should suspend judgment on Boris until we have all the facts through an inquiry, police investigation, and parliamentary commission...then we should explode him.
    also,
    I'd like to be called Lord Poopy His Most Gloriously Excellent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    So when I make a joke it's completely rude and disrespectful, but when someone else does it's the proper tone. Rigggggghtt.
    No. I was calling you both out.

    Oskar reflecting your tone was inappropriate as well.

    Just tone it down a bit.
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