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  1. #1
    These live debates are stupid. I'm not sure why anyone cares about a candidate's ability to debate. Is that the main job of a politician? To engage in arguments with rivals on TV for the benefit of the salivating electorate? Personally, this is the kind of politics I hate. Shit slinging politics.

    Maybe Biden is getting too old to get worked up in a debate. Maybe his meds make him too chill for it. In the hypothetical situation where that is literally the only "flaw" he has, is it a problem? Of course it's not his only flaw, but the inability or unwillingness to engage in effective live debate is not something I really consider a flaw in a politician, but that's because I don't give a toss what they say. Politics for me is not a televised live debate. That's entertainment, and not even good entertainment. Politics is policy and action.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post

    Maybe Biden is getting too old to get worked up in a debate. Maybe his meds make him too chill for it.
    It's not that he can't get worked up, it's that he can't string a coherent series of words together. He literally makes no sense more often than he makes sense.



    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Politics is policy and action.
    You want someone who's mind is functioning to be doing that too.
    I just think we should suspend judgment on Boris until we have all the facts through an inquiry, police investigation, and parliamentary commission...then we should explode him.
    also,
    I'd like to be called Lord Poopy His Most Gloriously Excellent.
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    Seriously if the Dems actually let Biden run for President I will have to give up on them. That will mean both political parties will have lost their minds, and the USA will officially be, in my view, a failed state.
    I just think we should suspend judgment on Boris until we have all the facts through an inquiry, police investigation, and parliamentary commission...then we should explode him.
    also,
    I'd like to be called Lord Poopy His Most Gloriously Excellent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    I have to say I really have to hand it to Trump. I did not think that when shutting up is the smartest thing to do, he would be up for the job
    I'm equally surprised that Trump is actually showing some self-control. He's basically understood that his best campaign worker right now is Biden, so he's letting him talk.
    I just think we should suspend judgment on Boris until we have all the facts through an inquiry, police investigation, and parliamentary commission...then we should explode him.
    also,
    I'd like to be called Lord Poopy His Most Gloriously Excellent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    These live debates are stupid. I'm not sure why anyone cares about a candidate's ability to debate. Is that the main job of a politician? To engage in arguments with rivals on TV for the benefit of the salivating electorate? Personally, this is the kind of politics I hate. Shit slinging politics.
    It's meant to be an opportunity for the candidates explain their different platforms and policies and make their case, issue by issue as to why they're the better candidate.
    It's meant to be a chance for the voters to see what they are like when under some minimal pressure and scrutiny by the other candidate to keep them honest.
    It's meant to be an opportunity for them to differentiate themselves as leaders.

    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Maybe Biden is getting too old to get worked up in a debate. Maybe his meds make him too chill for it. In the hypothetical situation where that is literally the only "flaw" he has, is it a problem? Of course it's not his only flaw, but the inability or unwillingness to engage in effective live debate is not something I really consider a flaw in a politician, but that's because I don't give a toss what they say. Politics for me is not a televised live debate. That's entertainment, and not even good entertainment. Politics is policy and action.
    The fact that he's not meeting my expectations is my concern.
    The reason he's not meeting my expectations is his business, not mine.

    I'm not concerned about Biden's ability to debate.

    I'm concerned that in the debate, what I saw was an inability to express coherent thoughts or sentences. I'm concerned that literally anyone with a brain who is invested in the US political scene should be able to wipe the floor against a man convicted of 34 felony charges who can't seem to open his mouth without repeating lies he's told before.

    That's a fucking LOW bar, man.

    I want to know there is someone in this who can win against a man who has promised to be a dictator, "but only on day 1" when he's elected.
    I want to know there is someone in this who can win against a man with 34 felony charges and a new extra immunity to commit all the crimes he can imagine for the next 4 years.
    I want to know there is someone in this who can win against a man who has argued it should be legal for the President to order military assets to kill his political rivals.

    If Biden can prove that's him, like his supporters say it's him, then let him prove it. Let him stand on the stage at the DNC and make his case, then let another dozen people make theirs. Next day, take the top 2 - 4 from there and do it again. Final day, hold a debate between them and then have the vote for the nominee.

    If it's still Biden, then awesome. I should've listened to you all along. If not, well. Now we all agree we have a better chance to win than before, right? So it's win win for everyone.
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    Looks like Biden decided to try out that whole presidential immunity thing after all.





    Well, now Trump will certainly shoot up in the polls. With any luck this will encourage the Ds to pull their fingers out and replace Biden with someone fully conscious.
    I just think we should suspend judgment on Boris until we have all the facts through an inquiry, police investigation, and parliamentary commission...then we should explode him.
    also,
    I'd like to be called Lord Poopy His Most Gloriously Excellent.
  7. #7
    Apparently a copy-cat assassin just took a potshot at Biden while he was dozing on a couch in the WH.

    Biden very slowly got to his feet, put his fist in the air, and said "Sight, sight, sight!...Er, I mean fight....anyways, what were we talking about again?"

    Amazing.
    I just think we should suspend judgment on Boris until we have all the facts through an inquiry, police investigation, and parliamentary commission...then we should explode him.
    also,
    I'd like to be called Lord Poopy His Most Gloriously Excellent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Apparently a copy-cat assassin just took a potshot at Biden while he was dozing on a couch in the WH.

    Biden very slowly got to his feet, put his fist in the air, and said "Sight, sight, sight!...Er, I mean fight....anyways, what were we talking about again?"

    Amazing.
    The funny thing is, if Biden got assassinated, it would almost certainly lead to a landslide win for his replacement. With Trump... I'm not so sure. I'm calling a slight bump in the polls for Trump after this failed attempt.
    The strengh of a hero is defined by the weakness of his villains.
  9. #9
    Trump has said it was God that saved him from the bullet.

    Biden, meanwhile, thanked his dog.
    I just think we should suspend judgment on Boris until we have all the facts through an inquiry, police investigation, and parliamentary commission...then we should explode him.
    also,
    I'd like to be called Lord Poopy His Most Gloriously Excellent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    I'm calling a slight bump in the polls for Trump after this failed attempt.
    I think you might underestimate the appeal to Americans of someone who's been shot at.
    I just think we should suspend judgment on Boris until we have all the facts through an inquiry, police investigation, and parliamentary commission...then we should explode him.
    also,
    I'd like to be called Lord Poopy His Most Gloriously Excellent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    I think you might underestimate the appeal to Americans of someone who's been shot at.
    Countdown to "This will help him win back the black community."

    Today there's been another massacre at a refugee camp in the ongoing genocide in Gaza, the Joe Biden Memorial Pier has sunk into the sea after delivering one day's worth of aid, and Joe Biden has been aggressively off-putting in addition to the roaring dementia. What is the whisper thing? What is he doing? None of this is going to get better by November.

    I think the best Dems can hope for is a giant bump in polling after Trump takes a bullet Werner Herzog style. At least then they might be able to push Biden out.

    Anyway, I've been watching Smiling Friends. Highly recommended. Some might say it's too rooted in reality to offer escape in these cruel times.
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    Last edited by oskar; 07-14-2024 at 03:17 PM.
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