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    Like I understand American law. 91 counts might mean 91 different ways of charging the same crime. I mean, this is a country where you can go to prison until the sun goes supernova.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Like I understand American law. 91 counts might mean 91 different ways of charging the same crime. I mean, this is a country where you can go to prison until the sun goes supernova.
    It is not legal to charge someone twice for the same crime.
    It's called Double Jeopardy.

    You can charge them with multiple crimes for the same action, and it's not uncommon to do so in lesser trials. A prosecutor may levy charges of manslaughter, murder 1, murder 2, and press them all, hoping for the highest level of conviction, all in 1 trial for 1 killing.

    What they can't do is press the trial for murder 2, lose, then press another trial for murder 1.

    BUT the 91 charges against Trump are only kinda lumped up. Each instance of fraud he committed is an individual crime, even if he committed multiple instances of fraud to cover up a single event.


    Has there been more criminal politicians in US history? Almost certainly.
    Has anyone produced such a wealth of publicly available admissions to crimes as Trump? Certainly not.

    It may not be that he's more corrupt than others, and only that he's more brazen. But I strongly suspect that he's far more corrupt than the average politician.
    Last edited by MadMojoMonkey; 08-26-2023 at 11:59 AM.
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    It may not be that he's more corrupt than others, and only that he's more brazen. But I strongly suspect that he's far more corrupt than the average politician.
    I'm not so sure about this. I just think he's more overt, partly through being dumb, partly through his ego.

    "Average politician" is a bit vague and I'd probably agree if we're including local-level politicians who don't have relatively more influence than their peers, but if we were to say "elite politician" so we're talking about cabinet ministers, senators, lawmakers and the like, then I'm not so sure. I think they're all as corrupt as hell.
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    I can't believe no-one has brought up the fact that Trump self-reported his height and weight as 6'3" and 215 lbs. That's the same dimensions as Muhammad Ali in his prime.

    So yeah, Trump is either secretly the most ripped 77 year old who's ever lived, or he thinks we're all gullible fools. I wonder which it is?
    I just think we should suspend judgment on Boris until we have all the facts through an inquiry, police investigation, and parliamentary commission...then we should explode him.
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    I'd like to be called Lord Poopy His Most Gloriously Excellent.

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