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 Originally Posted by OngBonga
What does it matter how an invasion happens if the end result is the same? And the end result is satellite states of a superpower.
Well Ong, a military invasion tends to cause a lot more deaths than spreading democracy to other countries peacefully does.
 Originally Posted by OngBonga
Because it creates security problems for the stated enemy of this so-called "peacekeeping organisation".
Every country has security problems. We're all surrounded by potential enemies. Treaties get broken all the time, we don't know what's going to happen tomorrow. It's an insecure world.
The difference is when one country decides its security problem means it needs to wage war on another. That's a security problem for everyone else. It's basically that country saying our security problem means we have to bomb your country, occupy your territory by force, and kill your citizens.
 Originally Posted by OngBonga
If NATO was genuinely peaceful in its agenda, it would not do its best to enrage Russia, it would instead seek peaceful relations with Russia. NATO's rhetoric is not that of a peaceful entity. Militaries are not peaceful by their very nature.
You're reading minds again here. It would be better if you stuck to what is actually known.
 Originally Posted by OngBonga
it leaves you concluding that the only reason Putin is doing this is for Soviet glory territorial gains. To fully realise this ambition, he must fight NATO eventually. I'd rather believe that NATO's relationship with Ukraine is a critical factor that can be resolved, because that's a more optimistic position.
I don't know what is motivating Putin. But, he's got big problems if he thinks the solution to NATO is to invade every country that isn't already in it. That's just going to push more countries into NATO and eventually Russia will have all of Europe against it. Doesn't seem like a wise strategy to me.
As for NATO "solving" the problem, you basically seem to be arguing they should stop caring about any country that borders Russia, and leave them defenceless to invasion. That then becomes a security problem for NATO. What if Russia keeps gobbling up little countries, then allies with China to divvy up the rest of the world between them? Are you then going to say "good thing we didn't try to oppose them with NATO?"
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