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 Originally Posted by Poopadoop
Neither of you are really mental enough to be sincere Trump fans though, even if you yourself have the accent that would get you straight into yallqaeda. You guys just want to upset the libs. That's not MAGA, that's nihilism.
I'm not going to debate anything back and forth, but I guess with my trolling history, it could be useful for me to spell out what I actually think in one place. Overall, I support Trump for some things, and I'm against him for some things.
On a macro and long-term level, I enjoyed someone who was a complete outsider beating like the top 15 people the Republican Party had to offer followed by beating Hillary Clinton, who is probably the most prolific politician we have who hasn't been president. I love that the guy the left likes to call a "failed reality TV star who was banging porn stars while his wife was pregnant" or whatever is the guy who beat them all because it really brought to light how disconnected politicians are from the people they supposedly serve.
In terms of policy, I like the push for building a legitimate wall on the southern border, something Democrats were pushing hard for just a couple of decades ago. Our southern border is absolutely insane with human trafficking, and anything that puts a reasonable dent in that is something I'll be in favor of. It's also a simple matter of national security. I also like the push for limiting immigration for people who will not have a net positive effect on the country, however you want to reasonably determine that. I like doing anything to gut the "Affordable Care Act" that was supposed to be our universal healthcare legislation but is actually just unaffordable yet compulsory health insurance that doesn't cover much (this gets into eliminating the insurance industry, which is its own clusterfuck of a discussion and which is something that will never happen).
Now for some of what I don't like.
On him as a person, the thing that stood out to me the most about the "pussy grabbing" tapes was him talking about trying to take this woman furniture shopping. It was the most embarrassing, non-pimp shit I have ever heard in my life.
I really didn't like him putting his kids and son in law into positions of power, especially at a cost to taxpayers. That early situation not being able to utilize controlling both houses of Congress to any effect was also really bad.
In terms of policy, I didn't like some of the things he had to say about gun control, specifically comments in favor of things like what we call "red flag laws" that allow guns to be taken away without due process just due to allegations that do not have to be proven or substantiated in any real way.
I wasn't a fan of how he handled Mattis late in the game, but I was a fan of how he handled him early in the game. Trump came in suggesting certain military policies, Mattis disagreed and laid out why, and Trump went with what Mattis suggested instead because he recognized that Mattis was the expert on that subject.... and then all of that went out the fucking window.
On the issue of the coronavirus stuff, he got called a racist for trying to initiate a travel ban for people who had visited China so early on. A couple of months later, and the same news outlets (the NYT as one example) were saying he didn't do it soon enough. My problem is that he seemed to fold in the face of things like this instead of taking it on the chin. It's like when the riots broke out this summer, I thought that he needed to do more to put those down because of the pandemic. He definitely cared too much about what people thought about him compared to just doing his job. (Side note: AOC appears to be the opposite of this for now, which is why I like her as a person a lot while being against many/most of her policy ideas.)
His position on the masks stuff stayed pretty close in line with what the Surgeon General, the CDC and WHO were saying, so I can't hate on him for that anymore than I hate on those three (which is a lot). That shit in the Rose Garden, however, was some of the most ridiculous bullshit I've ever seen in my life, and he should have never allowed that to happen.
The big thing that a lot of people are talking about now is his speech before the Capitol situation. I've watched the entire speech more than once, and it wasn't anything out of the ordinary in terms of political figures encouraging a protest. He specifically told them to be peaceful. With that said, he shouldn't have been encouraging any protest during a fucking pandemic anymore than the riots and protests this summer should have been encouraged. Here's the speech: "Keep your fucking ass at home." The end. That's it. That's all it should have been.
Overall with the coronavirus stuff, Trump really got dealt a shitty hand with that happening at all, especially in his first term, especially starting around the beginning of an election year. But he didn't exactly do himself a lot of favors with how he handled it either.
Anyway that's entirely too long of a post on politics for me, so don't get used to it.
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