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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
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    MSM has a huge problem with these kinds of events because they can't just snatch video from twitch and parler, I don't think... and that was the primary source for what happened during that event. So the MSM coverage on day 1 painted a very poor picture.

    At this point I'm mad at anyone in media who refuses to call this what it is. This was an attempt to violently take over congress that was obviously coordinated behind the scenes. (The DC police chief might be cooperating. He resigned and stepped down very quickly.)
    It is absolutely unthinkable that federal police was simply "unprepared." That is a completely ridiculous notion. Everyone who peripherally payed attention expected at the very least a major protest. The speeches at the rally were unmistakable and thousands of Trump supporters understood them as a call to breach the capitol. Maryland proactively asked for permission to deploy the national guard, and was denied. The capitol was occupied for over an hour before the national guard was allowed to deploy. That was after it became obvious that the mob had not been able to capture political leaders.

    One of the recent Qanon member of congress tweeted out the location of congressional members in real time, and informed them the second Pelosi left. They knew what Trump wanted them to do, because Trump made it abundantly clear to anyone who would listen!
    I'm a degenerate. I started Jan 6 with snacks and drinks ready, knowing shit would go down in DC. And during the speech of Trump and his cronies it became obvious what the plan was. I got excited because I thought: Holy shit, they're going to have to gun down those idiots on the capitol lawn! I couldn't believe my luck! But then they encountered almost zero resistance. From the end of the Trump speech to the first barrier falling couldn't have been more than 15 min. Within an hour they were inside the capitol.

    Here are some videos. It's been 4 days... I can't believe I can't find a proper supercut of the events in chronological order. Even if it's a really tough watch, here's Trump's entire speech from Nov6 He is completely incoherent for the most part, but eventually tells the crowd in no uncertain terms what he expects of them. Shortly after, when Pence refused to do whatever it was Trump thought he could do, Trump tweeted that Pence had betrayed him and that's when they started running down the barricades.

    https://twitter.com/asthehosptuRNs/s...791091712?s=20
    https://twitter.com/caelisangelus/st...590939649?s=20
    https://twitter.com/timjhogan/status...007827968?s=20
    Last edited by oskar; 01-11-2021 at 12:16 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    The capitol was occupied for over an hour before the national guard was allowed to deploy. That was after it became obvious that the mob had not been able to capture political leaders.
    I can see Boost and Mojo not wanting to believe their country would elect a banana dictactor wannabe, but someone has to explain why security was not stepped up in either the days leading up to Jan. 6, when it was obvious there was at LEAST the potential for shit to kick off, or once it did kick off, until the coup or insurrection or lolpeaceful demonstrationlol or w/e you want to call it failed to take over.

    This is the smoking gun that it was a coup attempt. Trump gave himself plausible deniability by never outright telling them to go and kill any of their elected reps, but if they had and he had somehow managed to retain power as a result, or a civil war had started, he'd be right there to lead the QAnon-tards to victory.

    Trump for his part wasn't risking his own life or even his freedom if it failed, he wasn't up front courageously leading them in a "just cause", he was just egging them on from the sidelines. And if it succeeded he could retain power. What did he have to lose? Getting impeached again?
    I just think we should suspend judgment on Boris until we have all the facts through an inquiry, police investigation, and parliamentary commission...then we should explode him.
    also,
    I'd like to be called Lord Poopy His Most Gloriously Excellent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    I can see Boost and Mojo not wanting to believe their country would elect a banana dictactor wannabe
    Uh, not sure where this comes from-- I fully believe we're capable of electing a would be dictator. Trump is for sure that.

    but someone has to explain why security was not stepped up in either the days leading up to Jan. 6,
    I think it's been pretty well explained as being part what happened during 9/11 where distrust between security agencies lead to them missing stuff the shouldn't have as well as part conscience or unconscious bias that is in my opinion likely inherent to law enforcement which naturally has a right wing lean.

    I think your proposal is possible, but also a bit fantastical to be so certain of while more plausible causes are left on the table.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boost View Post

    I think it's been pretty well explained as being part what happened during 9/11 where distrust between security agencies lead to them missing stuff the shouldn't have as well as part conscience or unconscious bias that is in my opinion likely inherent to law enforcement which naturally has a right wing lean.

    I think your proposal is possible, but also a bit fantastical to be so certain of while more plausible causes are left on the table.
    So Oskar could see it coming but the Pentagon couldn't? Or they saw it coming but were too steeped in professional jealousy to prepare for it? You find that explanation "more plausible"?

    None of this was a secret. The rally, the fact it would be attended by large numbers of MAGA/QAnon -tards, the plan to march on the Capitol, the ex-POTUS crying hoax, and you think the lack of security in D.C. was somehow analogous to not being ready for 9/11?

    Seriously, what?
    Last edited by Poopadoop; 01-11-2021 at 03:38 AM.
    I just think we should suspend judgment on Boris until we have all the facts through an inquiry, police investigation, and parliamentary commission...then we should explode him.
    also,
    I'd like to be called Lord Poopy His Most Gloriously Excellent.
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    If one good thing comes from this, it will be that more members of congress will start to arm themselves.

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    https://twitter.com/laurenboebert/st...91049584132097
    I just think we should suspend judgment on Boris until we have all the facts through an inquiry, police investigation, and parliamentary commission...then we should explode him.
    also,
    I'd like to be called Lord Poopy His Most Gloriously Excellent.
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    Didn't take long for the right-wing snowflake patrol to come out.

    https://twitter.com/cbelnap/status/1348438202483294211
    I just think we should suspend judgment on Boris until we have all the facts through an inquiry, police investigation, and parliamentary commission...then we should explode him.
    also,
    I'd like to be called Lord Poopy His Most Gloriously Excellent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    I can see Boost and Mojo not wanting to believe their country would elect a banana dictactor wannabe
    I should rephrase that. Rather than you finding it hard to believe Trump would try something nefarious, it's that you find it hard to believe that other members of the gov't would be complicit in it.
    I just think we should suspend judgment on Boris until we have all the facts through an inquiry, police investigation, and parliamentary commission...then we should explode him.
    also,
    I'd like to be called Lord Poopy His Most Gloriously Excellent.
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    I think it's pretty clear some of the cops on the scene were yallqaeda sympathizers. Don't know that these videos are evidence they were "in" on it with prior knowledge or as part of a plan though. It's just as possible they saw it happening and decided they were ok with it.
    I just think we should suspend judgment on Boris until we have all the facts through an inquiry, police investigation, and parliamentary commission...then we should explode him.
    also,
    I'd like to be called Lord Poopy His Most Gloriously Excellent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    One of the recent Qanon member of congress tweeted out the location of congressional members in real time, and informed them the second Pelosi left. They knew what Trump wanted off them, because Trump made it abundantly clear to anyone who would listen!
    I mean I wouldn't be shocked if she was trying to help the yallqaeda by this, but it's 100% circumstantial as far as evidence goes.



    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    I started Jan 6 with snacks and drinks ready, knowing shit would go down in DC. And during the speech of Trump and his cronies it became obvious what the plan was. I got excited because I thought: Holy shit, they're going to have to gun down those idiots on the capitol lawn! I couldn't believe my luck!
    hahahaha Oskar.
    I just think we should suspend judgment on Boris until we have all the facts through an inquiry, police investigation, and parliamentary commission...then we should explode him.
    also,
    I'd like to be called Lord Poopy His Most Gloriously Excellent.

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