*** The Official MAGAposting thread ***

[Poopadoop]

Incorrect. I'm far too lazy for that. I mean, when did I even say anything that you believe to be an "alternative fact"? I've been quick to point out that many "facts" you state are just your interpretation, you opinion.

You continue to express suspicion about the legality of the election, despite us explaining to you repeatedly that all the cases disputing have been thrown out of court as laughable. So where are you getting this idea from? Do you just hear "Trump disputes election" and give him the benefit of the doubt? If so, that's pretty dumb given his record for lying to suit his own ends.

The argument that there couldn't have been a swing of votes towards Biden when the urban votes were counted was one of your dumb arguments I recall. Another one had something to do with more people voting than in 2012, like that's proof of something. I'm sure there've been others but I can't think of them right now.

You say you're in no doubt this was a "coup". So why did they leave without a fight? And while there were certainly isolated incidents of violence, the "mob" weren't violent.

You obv. didn't read what I said. It was Trump trying to use the mob to carry out the coup. He didn't lead them there himself, and they weren't organised or led by anyone so they had no chance of succeeding. He was telling them to go there and fight for their rights, that the election was a fraud. He refused to agree to the order for the National Guard to go in and restore order. Obviously he wanted shit to really kick off so he could pull some presidental power out of his ass and declare Martial Law or something. Who knows what his idiotic plan was? It wasn't to peacefully hand over power, that's for sure.

I watched multiple streams for hours and saw nothing that I considered to be "violent", other than a woman getting shot by police. Obviously I did not watch everything, and I'm aware a cop died after being attacked with a fire extinguisher, so clearly there was violence. But the protest itself was ridiculously mild compared to what we've seen over the last year. What has made this different is the choice of location for the protest, and the method of protest.

There's plenty of footage and photos of violence that weren't livestreamed but is now available. There's vidoes of the press being threatened. I already mentioned the cop getting killled, and another cop being squashed in a door frame. Saying it was peaceful because you saw mostly peaceful scenes is ignorant. It was not a love-in by a long way.

I think what we saw the other day was a more acceptable form of protest than outright riots and looting.

Trying to overthrow an election is acceptable? And you accuse us of being biased...

I believe they think the election was stolen from them, and on that basis I would say the protest was justified. It's irrelevant if it actually was stolen.

If you believe something undemocratic has gone on in an election, you go to court and present your evidence to a judge. You don't do that, and when the judge says fuck off you have no evidence, then decide to storm the seat of power, fight with security, steal things, and damage the building, and crack a guard in the head with a fire extinguisher for good measure. You don't bring pipe bombs and a noose.

This isn't a fact. The NG turned up after they had already left the Capitol.

Reductio ad Subjecto Chango. The impt. thing is the NG showed up late, and only because Pence called them in. Trump and his Sec. Defense refused to do it. That's a smoking gun right there that they were hoping for a coup.

[OngBonga]

I mean I guess Trump might have been hoping it escalated. Maybe he did want a "coup" (though that's not the right word). But the people didn't. The people want electoral justice.