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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    I think the problem arises because most people's opinions are being created and/or strongly reinforced based on their choice of media. The Dems could do more to increase their suport if they managed to somehow shut down Fox News for a month than they could through any actual policy positions.
    I don't think you're giving appropriate respect to the fact that about half the country thinks Trump is the best thing since sliced bread.

    The media sells what sells. They're barely driving the narrative so much as they know the narrative that people want to hear.
    Fox News can stop going full retard, but it's not going to change the retards. There'll just be another news agency, worse than Fox that pops up in response to the open violation of the free speech and free press.

    'Cause the audience is there.
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    I mean... the total lack of unbiased news in the US is the real problem.

    It's not that there's ample political entertainment shouting shows on TV. It's the dearth of any intelligent discourse across party lines showing up literally anywhere in the public discourse.

    People are savages if allowed to be. If we can't hold our news agencies and politicians up to a higher standard, they certainly wont miss the opportunity to lower their standards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    I mean... the total lack of unbiased news in the US is the real problem.

    It's not that there's ample political entertainment shouting shows on TV. It's the dearth of any intelligent discourse across party lines showing up literally anywhere in the public discourse.

    People are savages if allowed to be. If we can't hold our news agencies and politicians up to a higher standard, they certainly wont miss the opportunity to lower their standards.
    I think you're making a better argument here than in your previous post. The media is there to sell advertising space, which doesn't work well with the objective reporting of facts.

    Over here we have the BBC, which people on the left argue is right-biased and people like Ong argue is left-biased. So it's probably pretty balanced. All the other MSM on TV at least is fairly neutral. Most newspapers are biased but not to the extremes as in the US. Overall, you can get neutral news if you want it. Doesn't seem to be true in the US.
    I just think we should suspend judgment on Boris until we have all the facts through an inquiry, police investigation, and parliamentary commission...then we should explode him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    I don't think you're giving appropriate respect to the fact that about half the country thinks Trump is the best thing since sliced bread.
    It's one thing to start out tending to like a particular candidate. It's another to have that feeling hardened into concrete by 4+ years of constant propaganda.

    Are those people gullible fools? No, because they've only ever heard positive things about the guy. Why should they believe anything different?
    I just think we should suspend judgment on Boris until we have all the facts through an inquiry, police investigation, and parliamentary commission...then we should explode him.
    also,
    I'd like to be called Lord Poopy His Most Gloriously Excellent.
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    Guiliani rushing to Philadelphia to try to get them to stop counting votes lol.
    I just think we should suspend judgment on Boris until we have all the facts through an inquiry, police investigation, and parliamentary commission...then we should explode him.
    also,
    I'd like to be called Lord Poopy His Most Gloriously Excellent.

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