*** The Official MAGAposting thread ***

[Poopadoop]

I don't know this, but if it's true, it's not the police's fault, so it's not police racism.

I'm going to join your speculation game and guess there's quite a few racist cops who use the same argument.

[OngBonga]

I'm going to join your speculation game and guess there's quite a few racist cops who use the same argument.

You're already speculating, and have been for as long as I have. Like I say, the difference is I know I'm speculating, while you think you're not.

[Poopadoop]

You're already speculating, and have been for as long as I have. Like I say, the difference is I know I'm speculating, while you think you're not.

The difference is I'm giving you facts and numbers and you're giving me bullshit...

[OngBonga]

"Maybe black people get searched because they're obnoxious to cops" is a racist statement.

No, it isn't. It's not hateful, it's not discriminatory, it's not a statement of superiority. It's speculation that might or might not be accurate. Like I say, if you think that comment is racism, you don't understand racism.

Yeah, statistics count as evidence

Statistics do not tell us why something is happening, and the why is extremely important when it comes to racism.

In contrast to the statistics, all you have is 'blame the victim' arguments. Which are, as I pointed out, in themselves racist.

I didn't "blame the victim". For a start, I said "maybe", as in speculation. And secondly, you're not a victim just because a cop asked you what you're doing.

People who think they aren't racist because they don't go around beating up people of a different colour, while at the same time say racist shit and try to stick up for racist cops, are still racists in my book.

Your book is stupid.

You don't have to do physical violence to a POC to be a racist, if you condone racist behaviour and make excuses for it, that's enough.

I'm not condoning racist behaviour. I'm speculating as to why allegedly racist behaviour might not be racist. You just really, really want me to be racist because that's what lefties do when they can't get into the head of someone who doesn't knee jerk into racism at the first opportunity.

[Poopadoop]

No, it isn't. It's not hateful, it's not discriminatory, it's not a statement of superiority. It's speculation that might or might not be accurate. Like I say, if you think that comment is racism, you don't understand racism.

Yes, it is. You think you're not being racist because you don't come right out and admit it, but your words show that you'll go to great lengths to stick up for cops' racist behavior. You're also keen to show black people who overreact to being stopped because that further supports your view that the blame for their mistreatment must be on them, not the cops.

It's the old "This woman got raped because she was dressed slutty." approach to justice. Blame the victim.

[OngBonga]

The difference is I'm giving you facts and numbers and you're giving me bullshit...

You're giving me contradictory numbers that don't tell us anything about the why. I seem to understand, and you don't, that this proves nothing. When you accuse someone of racism, whether that be the police or an individual, you need conclusive proof, not statistics alone, and not a hypothetical book.

[Poopadoop]

You're giving me contradictory numbers that don't tell us anything about the why. I seem to understand, and you don't, that this proves nothing. When you accuse someone of racism, whether that be the police or an individual, you need conclusive proof, not statistics alone, and not a hypothetical book.

The proportion of stop and searches that are POC contradicts nothing except your worldview.

You don't need to be a rocket scientist to realize it's the cops who decide who they stop and search. Your theory seems to be that the cop randomly picks someone to stop, ignoring their colour, and then if that person happens to mouth off, they also get searched. Otherwise they get a nice pat on the head and a smile. And then, on top of that, you "speculate" that black people are wayyyy more likely to mouth off than white people, perhaps because of their "culture" (which is a chickenshit way of saying race).

You know what? I speculate that when black people used to get lynched In the US they all deserved it. They were all serial killers. And that's not a racist thing to say 'cause you can't prove they weren't. So don't accuse me of saying racist things 'cause I'll ask you for evidence and get all butthurt too.

[Poopadoop]

Also, not sure what culture thinks it's a good idea to mouth off at cops so they'll invade your personal space with a body search. You would have to be pretty fucking stupid to have a culture like that, wouldn't you.

[OngBonga]

Victim culture.

More on this. Victim culture is not the fault of the so-called victims. It's the result of social engineering. Powerful white people did it to divide and control the masses. It's called identity politics, and it's the most dangerous thing of our times, as it's got the American people so whipped up into a frenzy that they're on the brink of civil war. They're trying to do the same here by making up problems that don't exist, or at the very least massively exaggerating them.

People are getting shot in USA, and here people are crying about the cops politely asking what they're doing. The difference between USA and UK is huge, but it's like the left actually want it to be as bad here. You're so desperate for racism to be a thing that you'll redefine racism to cast a wider net. And you think you're on the right side of history. You're not. You know what's coming next? Racial segregation. Black spaces, where whites aren't allowed. We're drifting towards reverse apartheid. That's the side you're on. Don't believe me? New York College. This is just the start.

[OngBonga]

Here's a story of my last interaction with police. A few years back, when I was going through a rough patch, I went to Tesco to buy some shit. I had a hoodie up, and the security guard asked me to put my hood down. I decided to be a twat and asked him to take his coat off. He looked at me stunned, asked me again, and I reiterated that I would if he took his coat off. He basically decides to ignore me, he can't be arsed. Next time I go in there, a different security guard confronts me and tells me to leave. I refuse, and continue my shopping. He calls the cops, and they show up within minutes. I tell them I'm doing nothing wrong, that this is not a police matter, and they tell me I am wrong, that it's a criminal offence to trespass on a premises that sells alcohol. That took me by surprise, and I challenged them. Their attitude swiftly turned from neutral to pissed off, and they decided to search me for drugs because of my behaviour. Of course I don't take drugs to go shopping, so they found nothing. But the point is, if you act like a dick to the cops, they'll respond in kind.