Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
I'm sure I've made this analogy before but what if we both got a group of 100 noobs to play poker. Both groups get the same prep talk, the same starting hand sheet and a friendly slap on the butt, but my group starts off with $200 and your group starts off with $10. This would be representative of the net worth different of white and black families in the US. Which group do you think does better. Would you think it's fair to say that if the $10 group does worse it would have been up to them to do better since it's possible to build a roll from $10?

Yes, a lot of black people do great in life. It's possible that individuals succeed. That was never the point and proves nothing. Nobody complained that individuals can't succeed.
IRL, I started off in the $10 group, and failed to build a roll. I don't blame the system for that, my failures in life are mine. I could've done better in life if I applied myself. That is true of nearly everyone in the western world who doesn't "succeed" in life.

Here in the UK, a lot of our doctors are Indian or Pakistani. Some of these were lucky and born into rich Indian families, others were born to parents who devoted their lives to their kids' education in the hope they would succeed.

It's kind of natural that black people will be overrepresented in your $10 poker group. White families are, on average more financially established, black people tend to be second or third generation immigrants or whatever, they do not have the benefit of century-long established family links to their area. This makes a difference. Is it fair? No, but life isn't fair, it can never be fair to everyone. I got dealt a shit hand, but hey I'm in the UK, it could've been worse. There's worse places to be than USA, like most of the fucking world. Even for a black person in a system that is rigged, USA is better than China, India, Brazil, Russia, Indonesia, Bangladesh, Nigeria... that's over half the world's population right there. At least men can be gay in USA. At least you can marry who you want. At least you get welfare. At least you don't live in a slum.

For the majority of people in our countries, regardless of skin colour, if you apply yourself you will succeed in life. And if you don't, it's still better than being in a Brazilian slum or a war torn shithole.