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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    Here you go. 2016 Bernie = Populist 2020 Bernie = Fake Woke

    This whole video actually does not go about Bernie's positions on anything, and is somehow accusing him of identity politics?

    I couldn't believe Tucker Carlson (and by extension his viewers who gullibly drink up this garbage) could be this stupid. I mean, I know he was stupid, but not to this super saiyan level of stupidity.

    There is a whole wikipedia page solely dedicated to Bernie Sanders' policies. There are countless videos of him practicing what he has been preaching for literally forty years at least. His voting record is also in accordance with what he has been saying all this time. This is fact; you can't refute it as it is reality, and there are records of this shit everywhere to be found.

    In fact, CNN tries to spin his record on a daily basis, trying to make it seem he did different and is now a hypocrite. Turns out Trump was really onto something when he called CNN fake news. Them broken clocks sure are right twice a day.

    The problem and sad part is that the democratic establishment does practice identity politics. Which is why you have heard of names such as Buttigieg, Beto and Kamala. You know, people who you have no idea what their policies (nowhere to be found, likely they make shit up as they go along) are or their position on any subject is, but rather want you to vote for them because they are gay, a woman, or simply born-to-run (nvm losing to that turd Cruz).

    Obviously Bernie is all about substance in the entirety of his campaigning, no fluff at all, yet this fact completely and totally passes by Tucker Carlson. What an idiot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    This whole video actually does not go about Bernie's positions on anything,
    0:44

    You really couldn't wait a minute?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    0:44

    You really couldn't wait a minute?
    I saw the whole thing.

    It's just misrepresentation, misinformation and general bullshit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    for literally forty years at least.
    What would you say is his signature accomplishment?

    And you can't use something he might do as president. Assume he dies in the next 20 minutes. It's likely. He's 432 years old. Very much on borrowed time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    What would you say is his signature accomplishment?

    And you can't use something he might do as president. Assume he dies in the next 20 minutes. It's likely. He's 432 years old. Very much on borrowed time.
    Have you seen how 9/10 candidates in the democratic race now want to be labelled "progressive"? Pretty much all of them except Amy Klobuchar that I know of. I wonder why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    Have you seen how 9/10 candidates in the democratic race now want to be labelled "progressive"? Pretty much all of them except Amy Klobuchar that I know of. I wonder why.
    Have you seen how you totally didnt answer my question?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    What would you say is his signature accomplishment?

    And you can't use something he might do as president. Assume he dies in the next 20 minutes. It's likely. He's 432 years old. Very much on borrowed time.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    Have you seen how you totally didnt answer my question?
    Oh, my bad.

    He ordered Jeff Bezos, the richest asshole in the world, to pay his motherfucking workers better. Bezos cucked and crumpled, kicking and screaming. Alexandria, a rookie on team Bernie, then forced Bezos bitch to take his ball and go home. And then everyone else was left wanting and furious because they couldn't suck Jeff's dick anymore in NY.


    Beautiful.
    Last edited by Jack Sawyer; 05-03-2019 at 12:28 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    Bezos and AOC
    First of all, Bernie didn't "order" Bezos to do anything. He might have been the lead cheerleader and screaming the empty talking points the loudest, but Bezos does what he wants, ok?

    And just so you know....it was all ceremonial anyway. Most of the west coast states, where Amazon is, already have shitloads of state and city ordinances enforcing minimum wages that are $15+/hour. I doubt very much that any significant % of Amazon's workforce saw much of anything.

    Meanwhile, Amazon made $11B last year and paid no tax. Great job Bern!!!

    Wal-mart, Target, and many other large employers are crumpling to the lefty message of $15/hour. Bezos is just part of that trend. Bernie didn't do that.

    Furthermore, I asked you what the guy's signature accomplishment is. He's been a legislator for 600 years now and you're telling me that the best thing he ever did was scream at a billionaire indirectly through a TV camera???

    To be clear here....you're telling me that the best thing Bernie ever did actually has nothing to do with his job. You can't point to anything he's done in 8,000 years in his capacity as Senator that even matters.

    And AOC vs Amazon. LOL. Even DiBlasio thinks AOC was a retard on this. Here, let me walk you through it.

    Amazon: We'd like to build in NYC
    NYC: Ok, we'll charge you $30B in taxes
    Amazon: Well, we're also talking to Boston
    NYC: Whoa whoa whoa, don't go with them. Look, we'll cut you a break ok....$27B??
    Amazon: you got a deal

    AOC: SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEECH. But like uh....we can do something better with 3B than give it to amazon. like, we could, ya know, spend it on new yorkers, like uh yeah, ya know!!

    Amazon: we're not going anywhere near that crazy cunt


    Do you see what happened there? AOC thought she was standing up against the government spending $3B on tax breaks for amazon. But in reality she just cost her district 27B in tax revenue....PLUS thousands of jobs.

    there's no nuance there. She really is that dumb.

    It's really really weird that you bring *that* up as *bernie's* signature accomplishment.

    Holy fuck dude.......you need a new idol
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    First of all, Bernie didn't "order" Bezos to do anything. He might have been the lead cheerleader and screaming the empty talking points the loudest, but Bezos does what he wants, ok?
    Yeah, like building a new HQ for Amazon in NYC. How are those building plans coming along, jeff mr-I-do-what-I-want?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    And just so you know....it was all ceremonial anyway. Most of the west coast states, where Amazon is, already have shitloads of state and city ordinances enforcing minimum wages that are $15+/hour. I doubt very much that any significant % of Amazon's workforce saw much of anything.
    But he was not doing it. He got bludgeoned into submission to doing it company wide by The Bern.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    Meanwhile, Amazon made $11B last year and paid no tax. Great job Bern!!!
    I don't think you have been following the news. What do you think is up next? You get three guesses.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    Wal-mart, Target, and many other large employers are crumpling to the lefty message of $15/hour. Bezos is just part of that trend. Bernie didn't do that.
    They all bowed down to your new socialist marxist overlord.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    Furthermore, I asked you what the guy's signature accomplishment is. He's been a legislator for 600 years now and you're telling me that the best thing he ever did was scream at a billionaire indirectly through a TV camera???
    Well, I didn't think you could handle history, so I posted a more recent example for your pleasure.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    To be clear here....you're telling me that the best thing Bernie ever did actually has nothing to do with his job.
    What is his job? I was under the impression that a senator's job was to keep in close contact with his electors' agenda of concerns and issues at hand. I would say a shitlow minimum wage is pretty much the biggest issue at hand for his electors.

    I thought he was elected to represent the people?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    You can't point to anything he's done in 8,000 years in his capacity as Senator that even matters.
    The sumbitch is immortal, I didn't know. I guess you won't be able to handle the next 8 years, being ruled by a socialist and marxist immortal non-practising jew who will give you good healthcare, excellent education and proper wages so you can concentrate on living.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    And AOC vs Amazon. LOL. Even DiBlasio thinks AOC was a retard on this. Here, let me walk you through it.
    Today I learned DiBlasio's opinion matters.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    Amazon: We'd like to build in NYC
    NYC: Ok, we'll charge you $30B in taxes
    Amazon: Well, we're also talking to Boston
    NYC: Whoa whoa whoa, don't go with them. Look, we'll cut you a break ok....$27B??
    Amazon: you got a deal
    Amazon: Can you also throw in a helipad kthx!
    AOC: You already got 30B and you still want a free helipad? Fuck off. Get the fuck out of NY you greedy shits. GIT GIT
    Amazon: oooohhhh shit I can't handle this bitch, I'm getting the fuck out of here
    There, fixed that for you

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    Do you see what happened there? AOC thought she was standing up against the government spending $3B on tax breaks for amazon. But in reality she just cost her district 27B in tax revenue....PLUS thousands of jobs.
    Like New York City really needed Amazon. Remember your own point about Amazon having made $11B last year and not paid a dime in taxes on that? Turns out the cities in which it's in don't really benefit from unpaid taxes.

    Try thinking. It helps.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    there's no nuance there. She really is that dumb.
    I agree with you, however the subject of this statement is wrong. She's not the dumbtard here. AOC is fn' brilliant.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    It's really really weird that you bring *that* up as *bernie's* signature accomplishment.
    Oh no, that was just a quick example to show you that Bernie is not a one man wrecking crew. He's more like the Avengers Assembled to make your country better

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    Holy fuck dude.......you need a new idol
    Oh I'm fine, thanks. Kind of ironic being told this by someone who idolizes Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    people who you have no idea what their policies (nowhere to be found, likely they make shit up as they go along)
    Actually.....Beto has something now. It was another $15 or $20T for climate change on top of the Green New Deal

    We might have to take over 2/3 of the middle east to pay for this shit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    Obviously Bernie is all about substance in the entirety of his campaigning, no fluff at all,
    Most of his criticisms of the establishment are spot on. But his solutions are buffoonery. Socialism doesn't fucking work. Even if you can tell me it kinda works somewhere, it won't work in America.

    completely and totally passes by Tucker Carlson. What an idiot
    You're not being fair to Tucker. First of all, it's not his job to pump Bernie's tires. Second of all, the segment wasn't about Bernie, it was about identity politics. Tucker shows how Bernie was basically forced at gunpoint to embrace the "woke" narrative if he wanted to cozy up to the DNC. That's just one part of the segment, but I used it to answer your question about why 2016 Bernie is different than 2020 Bernie.

    You seem to be perceiving the video as "Tucker's segment on Bernie". But it's not. And because of that perception you're probably watching it and saying "This guy won't talk about Bernie's policies because he's afraid!! So he's distracting with identity politics!!"

    The segment was about identity politics
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    You're not being fair to Tucker. First of all, it's not his job to pump Bernie's tires. Second of all, the segment wasn't about Bernie, it was about identity politics. Tucker shows how Bernie was basically forced at gunpoint to embrace the "woke" narrative if he wanted to cozy up to the DNC. That's just one part of the segment, but I used it to answer your question about why 2016 Bernie is different than 2020 Bernie.

    You seem to be perceiving the video as "Tucker's segment on Bernie". But it's not. And because of that perception you're probably watching it and saying "This guy won't talk about Bernie's policies because he's afraid!! So he's distracting with identity politics!!"

    The segment was about identity politics
    Thank you captain obvious, I kind of missed that. Maybe if I add a word to my answer it'll be clearer

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    This whole video actually does not go about Bernie's positions on anything, and is somehow accusing him of identity politics?

    I couldn't believe Tucker Carlson (and by extension his viewers who gullibly drink up this garbage) could be this stupid. I mean, I know he was stupid, but not to this super saiyan level of stupidity.

    There is a whole wikipedia page solely dedicated to Bernie Sanders' policies. There are countless videos of him practicing what he has been preaching for literally forty years at least. His voting record is also in accordance with what he has been saying all this time. This is fact; you can't refute it as it is reality, and there are records of this shit everywhere to be found.

    In fact, CNN tries to spin his record on a daily basis, trying to make it seem he did different and is now a hypocrite. Turns out Trump was really onto something when he called CNN fake news. Them broken clocks sure are right twice a day.

    The problem and sad part is that the democratic establishment does indeed practice identity politics. Which is why you have heard of names such as Buttigieg, Beto and Kamala. You know, people who you have no idea what their policies (nowhere to be found, likely they make shit up as they go along) are or their position on any subject is, but rather want you to vote for them because they are gay, a woman, or simply born-to-run (nvm losing to that turd Cruz).

    Obviously Bernie is all about substance in the entirety of his campaigning, no fluff at all, yet this fact completely and totally passes by Tucker Carlson. What an idiot.
    The democratic establishment sure as hell does it. But Bernie doesn't. No one who would vote Bernie would vote because of identity politics, but rather for his policy positions. Most other candidates in the race (Exceptions are Tulsi, Warren and Yang) I can't say the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    The democratic establishment sure as hell does it. But Bernie doesn't. No one who would vote Bernie would vote because of identity politics, but rather for his policy positions.
    I think you're grossly underestimating how close a Bernie voter is to a Trump voter. You clearly missed that part of the video too Captain Obvious.

    I predict that a general-election version of Bernie sanders will have to play the IP angle quite hard to win the swing votes.

    If that makes you wanna take down your Bern poster, I know how you feel. I went through a similar thing when I grew up and learned how slimy Roger Clemens is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    I think you're grossly underestimating how close a Bernie voter is to a Trump voter. You clearly missed that part of the video too Captain Obvious.
    That is a false narrative, a false equivalency if you may, pushed by idiots. I have heard it before, by the likes of hacks such as Rachel Maddow etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    I predict that a general-election version of Bernie sanders will have to play the IP angle quite hard to win the swing votes.
    How? He is one of the only candidates who will definitely not have to play the identity politics card in order to win those votes. He would clubber Trump into submission with policy.

    Trump is afraid of Bernie, hence he does not attack him. But the Democratic Establishment is even more afraid of Bernie, they are absolutely terrified. The fight right now is not at all vs Trump; it's against the Nancy Pelosi's, Chuck Schumer's, Brooke Baldwin's, Rachel Maddow's and even Steven motherfucking Colbert's of the world.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    If that makes you wanna take down your Bern poster, I know how you feel. I went through a similar thing when I grew up and learned how slimy Roger Clemens is.
    Bernie is still who he has been since forever. I didn't suddenly find out he was juiced up to oblivion to get K's.

    Sidenote: CNN is pure propaganda. You must have seen the amount of fluff pieces they had for Buttipete. Like asking about his cat and shit. No real policy questions at all, ever. And yet Bernie, they try and try their damndest to get words out of his mouth to twist these. Gotcha journalism to the max. LOL.

    Case in point:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    a bunch of gushing nonsense about Bernie
    Jack, I'm a little surprised you're *this* fired up about Bernie. He's not that impressive.

    Honestly, if I could list me top 100 priorities for this country, breaking up banks is probably way down in the 70's or lower. What's that gonna do to stop the suicide rate? What's that gonna do to fight the opioid crisis? Hows that gonna help laid-off manufacturing workers in Gary, Indiana? I feel like this is really about revenge and resentment. America doesn't need that.

    Free college? I can't think of a more destructive economic policy. Truly. This goes back to my argument about the dangers of stratifying your society by IQ. If you wanna know more about that, scan my previous posts. It's in there.

    I saw Bernie at the Fox News Town hall and they asked him about Trump's idea to ship the illegals to sanctuary cities. They asked him where he would send the illegals instead. And like a wind up doll he just started his rehearsed spiel about "We need comprehensive immigration reform.....don't demonize immigrants.....blah blah blah". Martha was like..."Dude, I asked you *where* you would send them?". And Bernie, like a wind up doll, repeated the exact same generic talking points...AGAIN. Martha pressed him, and then Bernie said "that's not a real question". In the end, ol' Bern reached into his 536 year old ass crack and pulled out some garbage idea about just simply building a new city at the border just for them. Great idea you schmuck.

    Immigration is in the top 3 issues for about 80% of the electorate, and Bernie has no plan. None. And before you point me to bernie dot org backslash bullshit backslash i didnt write this myself dot html and say he has some kind of realistic immigration policy, just know that it doesn't count if he himself can't articulate it on TV.

    Look Jack. I get that you like socialism, but Bernie is a buffoon. He's also older than most mountains. His age is a HUGE obstacle for him right now. Biden too. Yeah, you can be POTUS at 80, but can you POTUS at 84? 88?

    He's also a bit of a cuck. Trump would pummel him in the general. Badly.

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