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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    It's not a good analogy because it's
    Just because the law lags behind the technology does not mean the analogy is not apt. It's actually a rock solid comparison.

    1) impossible to monitor all phone conversations;
    Why do they have to be monitored? What if they just caught you some other way saying something racist on the phone? They still can't ban you from the phone.

    2) AT&T or whoever doesn't have their name associated with whatever goofy shit you say on the phone
    How are you arriving at this conclusion?

    plus the fact that it's private;
    No it isn't. The phone company still prints giant books full of people's names and phone numbers. You can call up a member of the public right now and say "I want you to know that Caitlyn Jenner is a man!". Totally legal. And if they take your phone away for doing that....it's illegal.

    3) there are plenty of alternatives to online communication than twitter, facebook, and youtube
    Wrong again. There are lots of people who depend on those sites for their livelihood. Banning them, suddenly, with no recourse, for perfectly legal speech is the kind of shit that Stalin could only jerk off to.
  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    Why do they have to be monitored? What if they just caught you some other way...
    Such as what?


    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    How are you arriving at this conclusion?
    Common sense.


    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    No it isn't. The phone company still prints giant books full of people's names and phone numbers. You can call up a member of the public right now and say "I want you to know that Caitlyn Jenner is a man!". Totally legal. And if they take your phone away for doing that....it's illegal.
    But you can't go around phoning people and saying 'Kill the ____".

    And they can take away your phone if you are found to be harassing people.


    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    There are lots of people who depend on those sites for their livelihood. Banning them, suddenly, with no recourse, for perfectly legal speech is the kind of shit that Stalin could only jerk off to.
    Then they should follow the rules. I depend on my university for my livelihood. That doesn't mean they dont have the right to sack me if I start every lecture with 'Kill the ___.!'

    Also, they're not banned suddenly. They get three strikes.
  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Such as what?
    Stop being stupid on purpose. The contents of telephone conversations can be exposed any number of ways. The point is, it doesn't matter how they catch you, how many times they catch you, or what they catch you doing. Access to a phone is necessary to compete in a fair marketplace. Therefore, the government enacted rules that prevents the phone company from having undue influence on commerce.

    The exact same conditions exist on social media. The gov't just needs to catch up.

    Common sense.
    When someone spots something offense of twitter, and they report it.....to whom do they report the infraction? That's right...to twitter. So if someone was heard saying something un-woke on the phone....to whom might it be reported?

    But you can't go around phoning people and saying 'Kill the ____".
    Incitement to violence has always been a crime. On the phone, on twitter, everywhere. But if you instead said "I think the world would be a better place of all the _____ had a heart attack tomorrow", that would be totally acceptable, and should be everywhere.

    And they can take away your phone if you are found to be harassing people.
    Harassment is a crime. That's not what we are talking about. We are talking about the use of a platform for the exercise of free speech, and how much influence the platform itself should have over that speech.

    And who is "they" that you refer to? If you're caught harassing people, the government, bound by the rule of law, and through constitutional due process may issue an order precluding you from using the phone. However, if you call the phone company and ask that a phone be installed, you'll probably get it. It's not the phone company's job check and make sure everyone is complying with court orders. You're responsible for obeying the law. If you get caught using the phone unlawfully you have to answer to the law...not the phone company.

    Then they should follow the rules. I depend on my university for my livelihood. That doesn't mean they dont have the right to sack me if I start every lecture with 'Kill the ___.!'
    You keep using an incitement to violence as a representative example. It's not really relevant at all. That would be a special case where your actions would violate law, not just school policy. BTW, are you familiar with the Brett Weinstein story?

    Your analogy is also shit because there are lots of universities where you could work and have virtually the same opportunity. There's only one YouTube and no viable competition that comes anywhere close. Let's say your buddy David Pakman somehow runs afoul of Googles rules....where does he go then?

    Also, they're not banned suddenly. They get three strikes
    Not always. Also, if a "strike" is "any bullshit that happens to offend some snowflake", then you could have 300 strikes and still expect to be banned.
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post

    Your analogy is also shit because there are lots of universities where you could work and have virtually the same opportunity.
    How am I going to get a job at the same quality university after I get fired from the one I'm at now? lol, that's not how things work. Getting fired is not a good look on your CV. So, given my university will fire me if I break their clearly-stated rules, how are they the ones at fault if I break them?

    Getting fired from an actual job is clearly much more damaging to one's career than getting banned from twitter.
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    How am I going to get a job at the same quality university after I get fired from the one I'm at now? lol, that's not how things work. Getting fired is not a good look on your CV. So, given my university will fire me if I break their clearly-stated rules, how are they the ones at fault if I break them?
    "Clearly stated"?? Google the name "lindsey shepard" She worked at a placed called "wilfred lauriet university". I probably fucked up the spelling in there somewhere but google will still find it. Anyway, she allegedly violated some rules. They weren't clearly stated. She just didn't comport with the "woke" left.

    And your analogy is still shit. I'm done explaining why. You already know, I suspect you're just being a dink on purpose.

    Getting fired from an actual job is clearly much more damaging to one's career than getting banned from twitter.
    What if your job was on twitter??
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    "Clearly stated"?? Google the name "lindsey shepard" She worked at a placed called "wilfred lauriet university". I probably fucked up the spelling in there somewhere but google will still find it. Anyway, she allegedly violated some rules. They weren't clearly stated. She just didn't comport with the "woke" left.
    She's suing the university, not twitter. And yeah, the uni were dicks and out of order.

    Stick to the topic.



    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    What if your job was on twitter??
    Then I would be careful to follow their rules, just like I am at my job now.
  7. #7
    What is it about twitter having rules that people object to, I wonder? Is it the fact you're not allowed to go on there and bully and abuse people? That seems to be all they're trying to curtail.

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