*** The Official MAGAposting thread ***

[Poopadoop]

Even the leftiest lefty wouldn't believe the "too expensive" argument.

I've heard them say the same thing. There's better and more effective ways to police the border.

Illegal immigrants cost our economy $116B a year. $20B for a wall is a no-brainer.

Seems impossible to quantify this precisely, and in any case having a wall isn't going to stop illegal immigration dead in its tracks.

Walls work. Don't even try to argue that they don't. They do.

Sure they work better than an empty space. Doesn't mean they're the best/only solution.

Diversion. 60+ thousand people a month are showing up at the border with no visa. That's a humongous problem by itself. If more immigrants are getting in other ways...that's a separate problem.

Are they showing up in the desert or at a point of entry? 'Cause I don't think a wall in the desert is going to change that.

What we do know is that fentnyl deaths have caused life expectancy in the US to decline for the first time in almost a century. So the drugs are getting in. Period.

That's terrible. But, do you imagine people are carrying bags of drugs across the desert border by mule? Or, are they using boats and planes and things that actually make sense if you're trying to traffic large quantities of drugs? How tall is that wall going to be?

[TheSpoonald]

I've heard them say the same thing. There's better and more effective ways to police the border.

Maybe that's true. In fact, it probably is true. It's also not relevant. Because none of those methods are permanent solutions like a wall. That's the one advantage a wall has over all other solutions.

The next liberal president can't come in and un-build a wall. He CAN come in and slash funding for sensors, border agents, detention facilities, and all that stuff that is supposedly "more effective".

That's why the wall is the superior solution. The american public won't accept the other measures. We were sold that shit in the 80's, and 30 years later we have over 20 million people here that shouldn't be.

[TheSpoonald]

Are they showing up in the desert or at a point of entry?

Both

But, do you imagine people are carrying bags of drugs across the desert border by mule?

Something like that.

Or, are they using boats and planes and things that actually make sense if you're trying to traffic large quantities of drugs?

I'm not sure how much you know about fentanyl, but a thermos of the stuff could wipe out a city. "Large quantities" is a fungible term.

[Poopadoop]

I'm not sure how much you know about fentanyl, but a thermos of the stuff could wipe out a city. "Large quantities" is a fungible term.

Better close the airports and post offices too.

And where is this illicit fentanyl originating? About 80 percent of the pure fentanyl seized by U.S. authorities last fiscal year arrived from China, often through the mail.