*** The Official MAGAposting thread ***

[OngBonga]

Brexit isn't some game.

No, but democratic actions are not something you can simply change your mind about shortly afterwards.

Sure.. we shouldn't set a precedent of having the voters vote on something, then politicians don't do it. We shouldn't set a precedent that voters vote one way, then politicians don't like it so they hold more votes until they get the vote they want. That's terrible, and you're right.

We also shouldn't set a precedent that 52/48 is not a a majority. We also shouldn't set a precedent that we have repeat votes for the benefit of people who may have changed their mind. It's a simple case of "tough shit". I think the American way of saying that is "deal with it".

You want a better analogy, how about changing your mind about nailing that blonde piece after your wife finds out. It's a bit late.

However... this was a clusterfuck from the start. As I understand it, most of it was fallout from someone writing some lies on a bus and driving it around.

This is ridiculous. Brexit happened because there was a social appetite for it.

Even the pro-Brexit politicians had no actual plan if the vote went in their favor. That pretty much tells me that even they didn't expect it to go their way, that they were bluffing.

I don't doubt some were. Others would argue the plan is simply to leave and adapt, take the initial hardship while rebuilding our economy for the better. We used to be the world's largest economy, we started the industrial revolution. Now 80% of our GDP comes from the services sector. We're a nation of bankers and retail assistants. Very few people now work in agriculture or industry. We make fuck all. That needs to change. We need to create British products that people around the world want to buy. Like cars, to throw out one example. Some would call that a plan.

A lot of information has come to light in the past 3 years that was not known. The difficulty of striking any favorable deals as the UK leaves the EU must change the minds of people who originally voted thinking otherwise.

This is nonsense. Everyone who voted leave expect the Europeans to be bloody difficult. And everyone also knew that it was impossible for us to negotiate trade deals with other countries until we had actually left. So we all expected a clusterfuck of uncertainty. It's the price we were willing to pay.

To the minority of people who naively thought it would be easy and now regret their choice, tough shit., You don't get to change your mind because you weren't informed when you voted.

It just strikes me that there is a compelling argument to be made that this is not a scam, that the first vote was the scam, and the constituency is far more informed now than they were back when.

The first vote wasn't a scam. Do you want to remain in the EU or leave? There isn't a "wait to see what happens and then make a decision". There's obviously new information that comes to light. That works both ways. What if we vote to remain, and then they start building an army? We vote again? We can't keep doing this, how is that not obvious?

If there's still appetite for it in a decade, maybe.But for now, we have made our choice, and we must follow it through to completion. Only after we have adapted (or not) can we know if we made a mistake. Maybe then we can vote again.

[Poopadoop]

You want a better analogy, how about changing your mind about nailing that blonde piece after your wife finds out. It's a bit late.

This is weak sauce, comparing a referendum to adultery. What a reach.

How about an analogy being you ask 100 people in your neighborhood if they want some deal and 52 say yes. You tell them ahead of time it's not a legally binding vote. Later information comes in that makes the deal look worse than it did when they voted. Are you going to say 'well fuck it 52% of us wanted it, so let's go ahead anyways regardless of whether it's now 40% now that more is known about the deal'? Seems kinda dumb.

[Poopadoop]

I don't doubt some were. Others would argue the plan is simply to leave and adapt, take the initial hardship while rebuilding our economy for the better. We used to be the world's largest economy, we started the industrial revolution. Now 80% of our GDP comes from the services sector. We're a nation of bankers and retail assistants. Very few people now work in agriculture or industry. We make fuck all. That needs to change. We need to create British products that people around the world want to buy. Like cars, to throw out one example. Some would call that a plan.

What a delusional argument this is. Not only is this an unrealistic plan, there's no reason to think Brexit would help it become a reality. We're not going to lead the world's economy anymore, get over it. Learn Mandarin and deal with the fact that times change.

[Poopadoop]

What if we vote to remain, and then they start building an army?

Lol, such a paranoid fantasy that we're going to lose our sovereignty because we're in the EU.