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    I mean obviously you can't boil down the + and - of membership in the EU into a simple number. But you can do better than just say 'look at these angry people' and 'omfg i don't get a takeback in chess why should the UK get a takeback in whether it's in the EU or not?'

    So simplifying the problem by saying let's look at fishermens' livelihoods (not that they're somehow more important than anyone else in the UK, but just to narrow the issue a bit) is one place to start. Are they better or worse off under the EU? If all you can offer is 'it seems a lot of them think not' that's not evidence for reasons I've already explained. There may be other factors at play in their livelihoods than EU fishing quotas like depleted stocks (which, as I understand it, is the main purpose of having a quota in the first place, so the next generation can still have something to fish). What they believe is irrelevant to what the facts are. People believe all kinds of stupid things, sometimes en masse.

    So you'll have to do better than that, sorry.
    Last edited by Poopadoop; 04-17-2019 at 03:51 PM.

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