Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
(5) What? I'm not hip to the lingo. I'm totally fine with acknowledging that the holocaust part of Nazism was evil, but the technological and military advancements they made were impressive. For a while there, it was Germany against everyone, it seemed, and Germany's tech was keeping up with all of them. We love to brag about how we beat them at the end, but it was at the end. German tech is still impressive.
Why are you carving up Nazism here? I can't imagine you'd do it outside of the context of this discussion. If I had just posted in the Randomness thread "Nazism is a bad set of ideas." I could be wrong, but I don't imagine you'd have responded with "well, yeah, but they had some great engineering achievements, and really was 1930's/40's Americanism better?

To be clear, I am not equating Nazism with Islam-- I'm going to the extreme to make the point that not all sets of ideas are equal, and that some are in fact worse. Sets of ideas are better or worse because they in fact do cause people to act. Hitler was charismatic. His charisma was a large driving force in infecting people with this perverse set of ideas.

I don't even want to convince you that Islam is a bad set of ideas, or worse than whatever-- I'm just concerned that people who I think are intelligent don't seem to think that memes have power, that they cause people to act.