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[OngBonga]

You can bet your ass germany is not energy dependent on russia. They buy russian gas, but they're not depending on it.

It depends what you consider "dependance"... Germany (the world's largest importer of natural gas) buys around half it gas from Russia (the world's largest exporter). The question begs, can they find an alternative source, and at what cost? There's your measure of dependance.

Trump is basically saying to Germany "Hey you, we're supposed to be allies, buy your gas off us instead of our economic rivals". This is economics, not diplomacy.

[Poopadoop]

Trump is basically saying to Germany "Hey you, we're supposed to be allies, buy your gas off us instead of our economic rivals". This is economics, not diplomacy.

Why should Germany not trade with Russia? Why should they pay a whole lot more to buy gas from the US, after Trump slaps big tariffs on them, berates them and generally treats them like shit for 18 months? Is that part of his 3D chess negotating tactics lol?

[oskar]

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/...e_12_russians/

The FBI didn't disclose that they were investigating russian interference into the election to help Trump and discredit Hilary, but did make the investigation into Hilaries e-mail stuff public, BECAUSE ... brace yourselves ... "they wanted Hillary to win and they rigged absolutely everything against Trump."

[OngBonga]

Why should Germany not trade with Russia?

idk, perhaps because they are members of an anti-Russia defence pact.

[Poopadoop]

idk, perhaps because they are members of an anti-Russia defence pact.

Every country in NATO trades with Russia, including the U.S.

Next.

[oskar]

It depends what you consider "dependance"... Germany (the world's largest importer of natural gas) buys around half it gas from Russia (the world's largest exporter). The question begs, can they find an alternative source, and at what cost? There's your measure of dependance.

Trump is basically saying to Germany "Hey you, we're supposed to be allies, buy your gas off us instead of our economic rivals". This is economics, not diplomacy.

It's silly to get into it, but very basically... not that I know much more than the basics: germany used to generate a lot of it's electricity through coal and nuclear power. Both are being phased out in favor of renuables, which means there's a large amount of redundancy in the system. When it comes to wind and solar, that's a redundancy that you need. The point is that russia could blow up all their pipelines and there wouldn't be as much as a dip in power.
It is absolutely unthinkable, given its fairly recent history, that germany would make deals that make them dependent on the goodwill of the kremlin.

Effects are measurable; humans' ability to measure are lacking.

That is the wokest thing I have ever read.

I don't say the market would self-regulate in those situations.

Markets are an aggregation, like a mathematical average. Also, our markets are impacted by government monopoly factors, so that can turn what would be a seasoned and robust market that serves all well to a primitive one that serves only select individuals well.

Don't make me interpret what you're saying. When you're replying to something specific, be specific in your reply. I have given you the migrant worker crisis as an example of a lack of regulations having disastrous results, I forgot what example Poop gave, but whatever that was... Don't weasel your way out by being as vague as possible.