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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    Nobody pays shit "to NATO." Almost everything he says is either retarded or a lie.
    Yeah, wtf is that about? They have targets for what they are meant to spend on defense; just because America wants to sells arms to the world doesn't mean Trump should try to bully and shame his allies into an arms race. It's fucking idiotic for an alliance which already has a 10:1 power ratio over its only significant rival to spend more. Next he'll be telling them they need to join his space force.

    Trudeau already told Trump to gfh with his 2% or 4% or whatever his plan is. I hope the rest of NATO does too. My guess is most of them are just waiting him out and looking forward to dealing with President Oprah or whoever replaces Agent Orange.


    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    Germany is not a captive of russia even if you divide the hyperbole by 10 I hate to dignify his speech by trying to interpret it, but I guess what he's talking about is energy dependence. You can bet your ass germany is not energy dependent on russia. They buy russian gas, but they're not depending on it.


    I never said it was bad, in fact it's absolutely fantastic if your name starts with V and ends with ladimir Putin.
    Mojo for some reason feels the need to defend Trump's idiocy; I don't really understand it. I guess it's embarrassment. But yeah, it's a false argument to say trading with another country makes you their 'captive' ldo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Mojo for some reason feels the need to defend Trump's idiocy; I don't really understand it. I guess it's embarrassment. But yeah, it's a false argument to say trading with another country makes you their 'captive' ldo.
    All I defended was his ability to speak English.
    What are you talking about? Quote, please.

    IDK what embarrassment. Nothing Trump does is a reflection of me or my values except by happenstance. I have no personal or emotional investment in whether he's competent or not. I've lived long enough to see multiple P'sOTUS be vilified by half the country and the country to somehow miraculously not explode in a fiery death. Funny how that works out. My grandparents fought WWII, and their parents lived through the depression. Shit's just not that bad these days. Whatever the hated presidents of the past or present, they have limited power over what change they can actually enact. Almost none of what they say they want to do or are accused of wanting to do ever happens.

    I'm more interested in why people take sides and make irrational assumptions and predictions than what their actual political view is.

    If people are going to accuse Trump of being unable to string a sentence together, then I make a note of him showing that ability, that's more about me noting a counter-example to my friend's suggestion than me saying anything about Trump.

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