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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    Wow

    I'm not sure Iraquis, Syrians, Libyans, Afghanis, Pakistanis, Somalis, Yemenis, Mexicans etc. would agree with how your precious second amendment protected them
    That's a good example of why one should never give details to somebody who is looking for a disagreement. Just state your position and leave it at that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    That's a good example of why one should never give details to somebody who is looking for a disagreement. Just state your position and leave it at that.
    Fascism creeps up on you. Dictators are elected, more often than not. I agree that any re-interpretation of the 2nd amendment has to be done with care, but at the same time you are enthusiastically supporting a president who has before and after the election repeatedly expressed his disregard for the first amendment, which I would consider a lot more dangerous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    president who has before and after the election repeatedly expressed his disregard for the first amendment, which I would consider a lot more dangerous.
    How's that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    How's that?
    He stated before the election that he thought people who burn the flag should have their citizenship revoked. More recently he has announced to reform libel laws so he could more easily sue newspapers for defamation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    He stated before the election that he thought people who burn the flag should have their citizenship revoked. More recently he has announced to reform libel laws so he could more easily sue newspapers for defamation.
    I was never a fan of that flag comment. Reforming libel laws is kosher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    He stated before the election that he thought people who burn the flag should have their citizenship revoked. More recently he has announced to reform libel laws so he could more easily sue newspapers for defamation.
    Yeah but you don't have to look at what he says, only at what he does.

    And then you have to look only at what he says, not at what he does.

    It's all part of his 3-dimensional chess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    That's a good example of why one should never give details to somebody who is looking for a disagreement. Just state your position and leave it at that.
    I'm not really looking for an argument, however you claimed that "since WW2, the 2nd Amendment protects the rest of the world because of the US military's position"

    It would be nice for you to understand (Or at the very least, know) what is going on in the world around you before claiming this. Because, after all, gun manufacturers are going to gun manufacture, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    "since WW2, the 2nd Amendment protects the rest of the world because of the US military's position"
    That was my opinion, not statement of fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    That was my opinion, not statement of fact.
    That unquestionably had to be your opinion, which is actually what fascinates me, the how you can reach that opinion while having all the facts which paint a different picture a google search away

    Please do not take it as a personal attack on you or whatever, as you are not the only individual in the world which holds such beliefs. So, that "you" is more of a collective "you" rather than individual "you". Also, you are allowed to have any opinion you want and express it however you wish, as you guys have the 1st amendment specifically for that amirite
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    That unquestionably had to be your opinion, which is actually what fascinates me, the how you can reach that opinion while having all the facts which paint a different picture a google search away
    My opinion is not one that the evidence does much confirmation for or against.

    The opinion derives from a few pieces of well established logic and facts. Mainly the logic that empowered citizens deter government totalitarianism and the fact that the US is the world superpower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    I'm not really looking for an argument, however you claimed that "since WW2, the 2nd Amendment protects the rest of the world because of the US military's position"

    It would be nice for you to understand (Or at the very least, know) what is going on in the world around you before claiming this. Because, after all, gun manufacturers are going to gun manufacture, right?

    Quite the Freudian slip as "a disagreement" was the word used
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