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    Learn how to fucking use quotes dude!!

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyS1985 View Post
    Obama inherited that massive recession from Bush. Debating that basic fact is you living in a false reality.
    Strong language. But you can't prove any of that. It's at least equally plausible that the market shit its pants when it realized that an inexperienced hyper-progressive was going to take over. We know the opposite to be true. The market got a gigantic boner when it realized that a very stable genius was going to take over.

    You've probably been brainwashed by far right media to not even be able to remember exactly when the recession started 10 years ago.
    Sounds like something that a brainwashed person would say.

    Our 3 worst Depressions/Recessions in the last 80 years all occurred under Republican Presidents, The Great Depression, the Great Recession, and The Savings and Loan's Crisis. Democratic Presidents have been known to create more jobs while in office.
    Moving the goal post. The boom years under Clinton were just an after-effect of Reagan-omics.

    I think the main problem with your ideas, they sound good, you can definitely sell them to people, but they don't fuckin' work. I want ideas that work, I don't want ideas that don't work.
    What ideas have I stated that don't work? What ideas have you stated that DO work?

    I can't say for you, but my family became millionaires under Obama.
    And look at you now. Titan of industry!

    When he took office, March of 09', the DOW was 6,800 points,
    Hmmm, I wonder if that means the market was happy to see him?

    when he left office it was around 19,000 points.
    Hmmm, I wonder if that means the market was sorry to see him go?

    increased the stock market by 150% in 8 years, I don't know how you can talk shit on him for that.
    Cuz he should have brought it up 500%

    Again, we're debating basic facts, that you act like you're entirely unaware of. You live in a false reality that doesn't exist in the real world.
    Demagogue rhetoric. Do you have anything of substance to say other than this caveman chant of "ooga booga, dems nice, ook ook, republicans yuck"

    Where are the big spending cuts after the tax cuts?
    I've already answered this.

    We just passed an omnibus spending bill that INCREASED federal spending
    And who was happy about that???

    particularly on the military industrial complex.
    Ooooh big scary words!! We're going to war dude!!

    I'm saying that if you can not accept basic empirical facts, you should not belong in the conversation of setting public policy.
    So your'e saying creationists can't hold elected office? Is that it?

    GWB thought WMD's were in Iraq, because "it felt true".
    Source?

    the largest foreign policy disaster ....
    I'm really not going to debate something that's almost 20 years old with you. But the world is better without Saddam Hussein. Period.

    You're close. It's not "5%" though,
    YOU cited a number of 400,000. That would be less than 5% of the prison population. If you've since found different figures, that's your problem. Taunting me about the statistical inaccuracies of numbers that YOU cited makes you fucking retarded.

    Your new figures count anyone with drug offenses. But among that population are people with a drug charge in conjunction with something else. Like they had some crack on them while robbing a liquor store. Or they were selling drugs while carrying an illegal gun.

    So go back to your calculator poindexter and tell us how many people are in prison whose worst crime is drug possession or use.

    "Among sentenced prisoners under the jurisdiction of state correctional authorities on December 31, 2015, 15% (197,200 prisoners) had been convicted of a drug offense as their most serious crime."
    You've made a mistake. 197,000 prisoners is no where near 15% of the prison population. And if it is, that means there are something like 1.2 million prisoners in total. Which is less than 1% of the population. Try again Mr. Math.

    I'm sure also that arrests and jail time over simple possession charges in states such as Colorado, Washington, and Oregon have gone down a lot since they legalized it. You legalize a substance, and then people stop getting arrested over said substance. This should be common sense, but apparently it is not.
    Marijuana is legal or decriminalized in almost all the states now. And will probably be in the rest within the next decade. Legalizing pot is not really a debate I want to have with you. I don't think it's a great thing, but it's happening, so be it. As for other substances, no. Society would de-stabilize pretty fucking quickly if you could score H a the Seven-Eleven.

    A better way to handle it is to identify the source of the heroin and then erect a gigantic 30 foot wall in between you and that source. This should be common sense. But apparently, it is not.

    For the victimless nonviolent crime of hiring a sex worker
    You really think it's a victimless crime?????

    You think Amsterdam is just full of hard-working women possessed with entrepreneurial spirit? You think they take the money and deposit in their savings account so they can go to college and buy a house?

    She probably told you that you were a good fuck. That doesn't make it true.
    Last edited by BananaStand; 04-12-2018 at 09:19 AM.

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