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[Poopadoop]

In what way are they unique?

You already answered this. Any nutjob can purchase a gun legally.

The solution obviously isn't to address that fact, it's to make sure the ratio of lethally armed non-nutjobs to lethally armed nutjobs is high enough to reduce the number of deaths from dozens to a few every time, assuming the non-nutjob in question puts on their big boy pants and confronts the nutjob.

Sheesh.

[BananaStand]

You already answered this. Any nutjob can purchase a gun legally

who decides who is a "nutjob" and who isn't?

What about the nutjobs that you don't know are nutjobs?

Does the statistical fact that a nutjob is more likely to be a victim of a shooting than a perpetrator matter to you? How do you propose the nutjobs protect themselves?

[Poopadoop]

who decides who is a "nutjob" and who isn't?

Not someone who's diagnostic criteria put 70% of the population in the nutjob category.

What about the nutjobs that you don't know are nutjobs?

What about them?

Does the statistical fact that a nutjob is more likely to be a victim of a shooting than a perpetrator matter to you? How do you propose the nutjobs protect themselves?

Is that a statistical fact, and if so, where did you get it?

[BananaStand]

Not someone who's diagnostic criteria put 70% of the population in the nutjob category.

Who then?

What about them?

Well....according to a stat I just found (cited below), 95% of shootings are committed by people WITHOUT a diagnosable mental illness. So....how is denying the rights of known nutjobs going to help?

Is that a statistical fact, and if so, where did you get it?

I actually heard it from a psychologist that I know. But a quick google search turns of shitloads of confirming results, including this one:

http://behavioralscientist.org/myth-...ass-shootings/

less than 5% of shootings are committed by people with a diagnosable mental illness. Like mentally healthy offenders, the mentally ill are far more likely to shoot people they know rather than strangers. The mentally ill are also far more likely to be victims of gun violence rather than perpetrators.

EDIT: Here's some more

https://www.nami.org/Learn-More/Publ...Reporting-Laws

In fact, people with mental illness are more likely to be the victims of violence.

https://www.apa.org/advocacy/gun-vio...erceptions.pdf

persons with serious mental illness are significantly more likely to be the victims of violence than to perpetrate it

[wufwugy]

You already answered this. Any nutjob can purchase a gun legally.

The solution obviously isn't to address that fact, it's to make sure the ratio of lethally armed non-nutjobs to lethally armed nutjobs is high enough to reduce the number of deaths from dozens to a few every time, assuming the non-nutjob in question puts on their big boy pants and confronts the nutjob.

Sheesh.

Deterrence is one of the components to solve this problem. Are we ridiculing deterrence now?