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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    there doesn't seem to be any evidence students are being threatened if they don't take part.
    there doesn't seem to be any evidence that students even realize that is an option. Do you really think 4th graders have fleshed out opinions on this issue? Or are they just gonna do what the teachers do? That's alot closer to 'coercion' than 'encouragement'. Even if you dislike both of those terms, 'indoctrination' is completely apt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    there doesn't seem to be any evidence that students even realize that is an option. Do you really think 4th graders have fleshed out opinions on this issue? Or are they just gonna do what the teachers do? That's alot closer to 'coercion' than 'encouragement'. Even if you dislike both of those terms, 'indoctrination' is completely apt.
    Right, because teachers never share their views with students unless their radical left-wingers. There's no such thing as a teacher who preaches God in their first grade class, or one who talks about abortion, or one in Texas who tells their students that happiness is a warm gun. If you accept that teachers are gonna influence students, then you have to accept that sometimes they influence them in ways that don't agree with what you would want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Right, because teachers never share their views with students unless their radical left-wingers. There's no such thing as a teacher who preaches God in their first grade class, or one who talks about abortion, or one in Texas who tells their students that happiness is a warm gun. If you accept that teachers are gonna influence students, then you have to accept that sometimes they influence them in ways that don't agree with what you would want.
    there is a HUGE difference between a teacher's lectures being tainted with political bias (which happens all the time)

    and a school 'coercing' students to participate in a demonstration in favor of one side of an issue that most of the students lack the capacity to understand.
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    there is a HUGE difference between a teacher's lectures being tainted with political bias (which happens all the time)

    and a school 'coercing' students to participate in a demonstration in favor of one side of an issue that most of the students lack the capacity to understand.
    There sure is.

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