Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
Why? You're making assumptions here that are very probably not true. Accidents? These teachers will be trained. Do you see security guards outside the Whitehouse accidentally shooting tourists? Fuck's sake. Deliberate? If someone is that way inclined, then it was probably going to happen anyway, and, as a teacher, one imagines they would legally be able to obtain a gun. So you're not stopping any accidental or deliberate shootings by not giving teachers guns, that's absolute bollocks that hasn't been remotely thought through.

What's bollocks is arguing from very small samples of people with very high levels of training. Any estimate of the number of accidental gun deaths caused by arming teachers can only be a positive number. It might be a small number, but adding any guns to the American school system will result in more gun deaths overall than adding zero guns.

Gun accidents happen, even when people are trained. They don't happen when there's no guns. As for non-accidental gun deaths, the same holds. Start with an estimate of zero and go up.

Here's someone who's trained to use a gun accidentally shooting himself if you need proof.



If your goal is to eliminate or reduce school shootings, then sure have armed guards all over the place, surround the school with barbed wire and electrified fences. That'll work. But it will only work because the people who currently go to schools to do mass killings will go somewhere else instead. It won't reduce the overall death toll from guns.