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    No one is forced into any profession.

    If you were hired to do X and you take the job, then claim your religious beliefs preclude you from doing X, that's ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    No one is forced into any profession.

    If you were hired to do X and you take the job, then claim your religious beliefs preclude you from doing X, that's ridiculous.
    No, that's not ridiculous. People can choose not to sell their services for any reason they choose. That's called freedom.

    When the government forces them to sell their services when they do not want to, that is called tyranny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    No one is forced into any profession.

    If you were hired to do X and you take the job, then claim your religious beliefs preclude you from doing X, that's ridiculous.
    TY mojo

    I thought I was the crazy one

    If your religion would preclude you from selling donuts, why would you work at a donut shop?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    TY mojo

    I thought I was the crazy one

    If your religion would preclude you from selling donuts, why would you work at a donut shop?
    By this rationale, people who do not work on Sunday due to religious reasons should not work anywhere.
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    For the record, I generally side against people who claim religion as means to discriminate.

    If you bake cakes, then bake cakes. If a gay couple wants a cake, who cares. All you're doing is baking a cake. Which is your job. You aren't being gay, you aren't endorsing gay-ness, you aren't offending god. All you're doing is baking a cake. Just like you do for everybody else who likes cake. So bake the damn cake and shut the fuck up.

    But this goes beyond that. You're asking someone to crush the skull of a fetus and vacuum it's carcass into the garbage. How is the difference not obvious?

    Baking a cake is not an act of gay-ness, so you can't claim anti-gay religious beliefs in order to avoid baking the cake.

    But performing an abortion IS an act contrary religious beliefs. Huge difference. And the first amendment protects people's religious freedoms such that they shouldn't ever have to choose between keeping their job, and keeping their faith.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    I thought I was the crazy one
    You are
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    No one is forced into any profession.

    If you were hired to do X and you take the job, then claim your religious beliefs preclude you from doing X, that's ridiculous.
    Ridiculous oversimplification.

    Doctors and nurses perform a myriad of tasks. Categorizing their job as "x" is shallow and naive.

    If they find one of those tasks morally reprehensible....does that mean they can't be doctors or nurses?? Only pro-choice people can work in the medical profession??
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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    Ridiculous oversimplification.

    Doctors and nurses perform a myriad of tasks. Categorizing their job as "x" is shallow and naive.

    If they find one of those tasks morally reprehensible....does that mean they can't be doctors or nurses?? Only pro-choice people can work in the medical profession??
    I don't think you have to even make the argument as specific as finding a task morally reprehensible.

    Suppose you have some apples. You traded an apple for $1 with some people. That does not mean you should be forced to trade an apple for $1 with me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
    Suppose you have some apples. You traded an apple for $1 with some people. That does not mean you should be forced to trade an apple for $1 with me.
    I've been charged more for a pedicure just because I'm a man.

    Totally legal.

    Total bullshit, but totally legal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    I've been charged more for a pedicure just because I'm a man.

    Totally legal.

    Total bullshit, but totally legal.
    I'm completely fine with being on the receiving end of that. I have the choice of going somewhere else for services, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
    I'm completely fine with being on the receiving end of that. I have the choice of going somewhere else for services, etc.
    I actually think it's an industry-wide practice. The argument is that men go less often than women, therefore the higher price is justified.

    The only places I haven't seen that done is at casino spas, but a pedi in one of those places is like $90 as it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    I actually think it's an industry-wide practice. The argument is that men go less often than women, therefore the higher price is justified.

    The only places I haven't seen that done is at casino spas, but a pedi in one of those places is like $90 as it is.
    That's the price you pay for being gay.

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