*** The Official MAGAposting thread ***

[BananaStand]

When your reaction to the message is to attack the messenger, it highlights just how weak you are as an interlocutor.

No, when your message is retarded garbage, calling you a purveyor of retarded garbage is apt. And there really is no other way to describe your "trump is dumb" drumbeat other than to call it retarded garbage.

When the liberal media goes ape-shit over practically every Trump tweet or comment, whether it's bad, so-so, or neutral, they effectively turn themselves into mindless propaganda machines. Similarly, when Hannity or whoever on Fox and Friends spins practically every Trump move as a triumph regardless of it being good or bad, they're doing the same thing for the other side. Anyone can see this, but yet you still take what you see on Fox as 'fact' and what gets told on the other side as 'fake news'. Has it ever occurred to you that maybe the truth lies somewhere in-between?

Strawman. I don't see anyone in this thread doing this.

More generally, I'm curious to know if you could provide some arguments as to what Trump's actually been doing that you think is constructive. And I'm not trolling, I'm genuinely curious: What is he doing right in your minds? Let's talk about his good points.

Wow, really??

-Tax bill
-Tax bill that is phase 1 of dismantling obama care (individual mandate is gone now!)
-two years ago, there was 45,000 ISIS fighters in Iraq and Syria, today there are 1000
-Illegal immgration has plummetted
-supreme court judge confirmed
-Travel ban upheld
-Not willing to entertain pussy-whipped compromises on comprehensive immigration
-brushes off an investigation that's been going on for two years with the goal of impeaching him
-Is credited with thawing relations between North and South Korea
-Dow at 25,000

[Poopadoop]

-Tax bill
-Tax bill that is phase 1 of dismantling obama care (individual mandate is gone now!)
-two years ago, there was 45,000 ISIS fighters in Iraq and Syria, today there are 1000
-Illegal immgration has plummetted
-supreme court judge confirmed
-Travel ban upheld
-Not willing to entertain pussy-whipped compromises on comprehensive immigration
-brushes off an investigation that's been going on for two years with the goal of impeaching him
-Is credited with thawing relations between North and South Korea
-Dow at 25,000

Ok, good. Thank you for eventually answering my question after venting your spleen.

[Poopadoop]

Here's a list of all the presidents in the past 100 years who have or haven't presided over a new record-high stock market

Have: (14)
Wilson
Harding
Coolidge
Hoover
Eisenhower
Kennedy
Johnson
Nixon
Reagan
Bush Sr.
Clinton
Bush Jr.
Obama
Trump

Haven't: (3)
Roosevelt
Truman
Carter

To be fair, Roosevelt was president for 14 years. But on the other hand he came to power during the Great Depression. Arguably the market didn't fully recover until after Truman was finished as well.

But let's assume those are lame ass liberal cuck arguments, and it's their fault cause they sucked. Still, 13/16 presidents before Trump were good enough to preside over a record stock market.

A simple sign test would tell you it would be surprising if Trump didn't preside over a record stock-market, independent of his qualities as a president.

So maybe that's not the best argument in his favour.

[spoonitnow]

Here's a list of all the presidents in the past 100 years who have or haven't presided over a new record-high stock market

Have: (14)
Wilson
Harding
Coolidge
Hoover
Eisenhower
Kennedy
Johnson
Nixon
Reagan
Bush Sr.
Clinton
Bush Jr.
Obama
Trump

Haven't: (3)
Roosevelt
Truman
Carter

To be fair, Roosevelt was president for 14 years. But on the other hand he came to power during the Great Depression. Arguably the market didn't fully recover until after Truman was finished as well.

But let's assume those are lame ass liberal cuck arguments, and it's their fault cause they sucked. Still, 13/16 presidents before Trump were good enough to preside over a record stock market.

A simple sign test would tell you it would be surprising if Trump didn't preside over a record stock-market, independent of his qualities as a president.

So maybe that's not the best argument in his favour.

In 2017, the record was set for the most record-high days for the stock market in a calendar year. #winning #maga #trump2020

None of them had more record-breaking days in a calendar year than Trump did in his very first year. Try again.

[Poopadoop]

None of them had more record-breaking days in a calendar year than Trump did in his very first year. Try again.

Perhaps my point was a bit obtuse so let me make it less subtle so you understand.

Giving Trump sole credit for the stock market is akin to giving Hoover sole blame for 1929 or Truman sole blame for having a lower stock market in 1950 than existed in 1928, or Bush sole blame for 2008 or Bush Sr. sole credit for 1989.

Do you follow now?

[spoonitnow]

Perhaps my point was a bit obtuse so let me make it less subtle so you understand.

Giving Trump sole credit for the stock market is akin to giving Hoover sole blame for 1929 or Truman sole blame for having a lower stock market in 1950 than existed in 1928, or Bush sole blame for 2008 or Bush Sr. sole credit for 1989.

Do you follow now?

No one here is giving Trump sole credit for the stock market (another of your seemingly endless string of strawmen). However, the rise started the day he was elected and has not stopped in over a year while he has been president. That's a strong indicator that his election and policies are a primary cause, though they are obviously not the only cause.

[Poopadoop]

the rise started the day he was elected and has not stopped in over a year while he has been president. That's a strong indicator that his election and policies are a primary cause, though they are obviously not the only cause.

So the people who have money invested in the stock market took his election as evidence that stocks would go up, and bought more stocks. Is that about the gist of it?

[Jack Sawyer]

No one here is giving Trump sole credit for the stock market (another of your seemingly endless string of strawmen). However, the rise started the day he was elected and has not stopped in over a year while he has been president. That's a strong indicator that his election and policies are a primary cause, though they are obviously not the only cause.

Really? Well, goddamn

In 2017, the record was set for the most record-high days for the stock market in a calendar year. #winning #maga #trump2020

Must have gotten the wrong impression from this post then

However, the rise started the day he was elected and has not stopped in over a year while he has been president. That's a strong indicator that his election and policies are a primary cause, though they are obviously not the only cause.

Ok ok, wait for it

[Poopadoop]

-two years ago, there was 45,000 ISIS fighters in Iraq and Syria, today there are 1000

Ignoring the fact that you're implying he deserves credit for whatever happened in the one year before he was president, let's give him credit for at minimum, not fucking up what Obama started. You might even argue he made things work better than they would have otherwise. Ok, fair enough.

[Poopadoop]

-Tax bill
-Tax bill that is phase 1 of dismantling obama care (individual mandate is gone now!)

-Illegal immgration has plummetted

-supreme court judge confirmed

-Travel ban upheld

Happy to give him credit for these things happening under his watch. One can argue whether or what extent they're positive though, depending on one's perspective.

-Not willing to entertain pussy-whipped compromises on comprehensive immigration

Depends on which tweet you accept as his position, the one before or after Fox News was on TV.

-brushes off an investigation that's been going on for two years with the goal of impeaching him

'Brushes off' is a bit opaque, and doesn't seem consistent with his repeated tweeting about 'witch hunts' and the like. To his credit he hasn't said much about it lately, I admit.

But last I heard, Mueller is thinking of asking him for an interview.

Is credited with thawing relations between North and South Korea

Is he? By whom, may I ask?

[spoonitnow]

Is he? By whom, may I ask?

The president of South Korea.