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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    No. Intelligence is Intelligence.
    Got this far before my head exploded. A new record for uninformed arguments.

    First of all, even the most basic things like verbal and spatial intelligence are separable. For another, intellectual and emotional intelligence are separable. So, e.g., one can be speak several languages fluently but suck at maths. One can be excellent at getting on with people but unable to read a map. One can be, like you banana, fluent with language but dysfluent in showing people basic courtesy and respect.

    So please go back and reconsider the rest of your post which I can only assume is largely based on this retarded premise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Got this far before my head exploded. A new record for uninformed arguments.

    First of all, even the most basic things like verbal and spatial intelligence are separable. For another, intellectual and emotional intelligence are separable. So, e.g., one can be speak several languages fluently but suck at maths. One can be excellent at getting on with people but unable to read a map. One can be, like you banana, fluent with language but dysfluent in showing people basic courtesy and respect.

    So please go back and reconsider the rest of your post which I can only assume is largely based on this retarded premise.
    No, intelligence is the ability to acquire knowledge and skills. Everything else you listed is knowledge and skills.
  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    No, intelligence is the ability to acquire knowledge and skills. Everything else you listed is knowledge and skills.
    No, that's not how it works. If intelligence were as simple and basic as that, any 'intelligent' person would be able to acquire any set of knowledge and skills. We know that doesn't happen.

    Perhaps the way to make you understand the concept is to view things as 'aptitudes' rather than 'intelligence'. A person may have an aptitude to be a great musician but not a great mechanic, whereas another person may have an aptitude to be a great doctor but not a great musician, and a third person may an aptitude to ....etc. etc.etc. Each of these people is intelligent by your definition of being able to acquire knowledge and skills, but the domain in which they are best suited to do so differs from person to person.

    Trump is intelligent at acquiring business skills. He is not (imho) intelligent in the skills required to be a non-moron in the social realm, such as knowing what to say and when to keep your mouth shut, or thinking before you act.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    He is not (imho) intelligent in the skills required to be a non-moron in the social realm, such as knowing what to say and when to keep your mouth shut, or thinking before you act.
    Completely impossible given where he is right now.
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    Completely impossible given where he is right now.
    Arguably, he won despite himself not because of himself.
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Arguably, he won despite himself not because of himself.
    That's why it just HAD to be Russia right??
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    That's why it just HAD to be Russia right??
    The influence of Russia was certainly evident, but is hard to measure. Comey (publicly) reopening email-gate ten days before the election was almost certainly a bigger factor. Before that, IIRC Trump was down by 12 points in the aggregate polling.

    But in general, my argument rests mainly on the premise that given a choice between two bad candidates, people took what they felt was the lesser of two evils.
    Last edited by Poopadoop; 01-12-2018 at 12:09 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    That's why it just HAD to be Russia right??
    No. It was Debbie Wasserman Schultz throwing the democratic primaries. Thank her. Fuck Russia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Arguably, he won despite himself not because of himself.
    It is certainly true that he bears a cost for what he does.

    Word is that he was surprised at first at the magnitude of the cost because he thought the media would treat him with a modicum of fairness. Good news for us that he learned that lesson quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Got this far before my head exploded. A new record for uninformed arguments.

    First of all, even the most basic things like verbal and spatial intelligence are separable. For another, intellectual and emotional intelligence are separable. So, e.g., one can be speak several languages fluently but suck at maths. One can be excellent at getting on with people but unable to read a map. One can be, like you banana, fluent with language but dysfluent in showing people basic courtesy and respect.

    So please go back and reconsider the rest of your post which I can only assume is largely based on this retarded premise.
    Most of this is completely incorrect. There is only one thing measured that is intelligence. The rest is attributed to personality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
    Most of this is completely incorrect. There is only one thing measured that is intelligence. The rest is attributed to personality.
    Your understanding of psychology is right about where your understanding of socialism is, the 1800s.

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