Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
I know I said I wasn't going to make another serious post, but in all seriousness, I think this could be a fundamental premise that we (and plenty of other people) disagree on: I don't think that people have a right to asylum.
Ok. You keep talking about your fantasies like they have a chance of happening. Trump couldn't get a foot of wall built in 2 years when he had the house and the senate. He shut down the government for 2 months to get a worse deal than he had before. It's not happening. Thinking there's a way to abolish asylum is fantasyland level thinking and even if it were remotely realistic, it wouldn't address the situation right now.

Right now you have thousands of kids who the government argues don't need soap and toothbrushes to be safe and sanitary. This is not a matter of money. Pence spelled it out: They're holding these kids hostage for wall money and they'll hold them in conditions that facilitate death until congress pays the randsome. There shouldn't even be a discussion if this was negligence or incompetence. This is clearly deliberate torture of children for political gains. You either think that's ok - most republicans seem to think it is, or you don't. What your core philosophy on immigration is really doesn't factor into it. This is a separate issue.