Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
Ong, forget about football. Here's the Trump admin arguing in the appeals court that soap, toothbrushes, blankets and mattresses are not part of "safe and sanitary conditions" that are required under the Flores Act and thus need not be provided for minor detainees. This is to argue that the Trump administration has not broken any laws by forcing minor detainees to sleep on concrete floor in space blankets with the lights on and not providing them with soap or toothbrushes as has been reported by delegations visiting the camps.

Cruelty is the point. "These are not people, these are animals" "They're rapists." "It's an invasion." "They all have AIDS"

https://youtu.be/Z2GkDz9yEJA?t=1447
Ok so I'm outraged. What now? Should I default to a pro-immigration position?

I'm certainly not in favour of treating immigrant children like criminals. And even failing to provide these basic things to adult immigrants is unacceptable. There's no excuse for it. There are other ways to deter illegal immigrants crossing the border, and that's to deport them.

If there's something I can do to change this, please let me know what it is I can do. If you expect me to hate Trump passionately, that's not going to happen. I don't find hatred of foreign politicians to be particularly healthy. I have enough contempt for our own politicians.