Our allies are foes, our adversaries are strong and their word is to be taken over our own civil servants. #MAGA
07-17-2018 11:19 PM
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Our allies are foes, our adversaries are strong and their word is to be taken over our own civil servants. #MAGA | |
07-18-2018 05:03 AM
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07-18-2018 07:47 AM
#3003
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07-18-2018 01:26 PM
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1. Goofy trade war with entire world. | |
07-18-2018 02:25 PM
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Honestly, the idea of a blue wave happening are kinda scary. Not because that isn't how I'll vote, but because how upsetting to the status quo that will be. So far Trump has been the teflon don. All his blunders are hand waved away-- he hasn't really suffered any concrete setbacks due to his actions. Losing congress, or losing in 2020 would be just that. | |
07-18-2018 03:09 PM
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It's the same way people make themselves believe in a religion or pick any conspiracy theory... flat earth, young earth, bigfoot... you start with a presupposition and then you reject everything that doesn't fit and make everything fit that supports it. I think it's a popular meme because the world is confusing and scary, and simple answers to complex problems are comforting. | |
Last edited by oskar; 07-18-2018 at 03:14 PM.
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07-18-2018 03:26 PM
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It looks like he got scolded by the majority of his base for the Putin meeting. So much so that for the first time I can remember I saw Trump walk back on something he said. Not that I think the would/won't thing convinced anyone. It was certainly completely immaterial to his idiot voter base. This was just to thwart an immediate move to impeachment by the looks of it. Tensions are definitely high. I would imagine that even people close to him would think it's pretty likely that Putin has kompromat on him. | |
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07-18-2018 03:31 PM
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They're only handwaved away by the 33% who think he's infallible and people who are afraid to alienate his base (i.e., Republicans who aren't quitting or retiring). Pretty much everyone else recognizes his boobery for what it is. I don't know what "concrete" setbacks he could suffer short of impeachment, but he's hardly crushing the public opinion afaik. | |
07-18-2018 03:40 PM
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It's interesting though if you watch Fox's coverage you'd think he'd done a good job overall at that meeting and the MSM is waaay overreacting. My favourite is where they try to argue it actually is a good idea to let Russia help with the investigation into Russian meddling. | |
07-18-2018 04:09 PM
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I watched the Fox news youtube clips right after the meeting. I'd like to claim that I do it to diversify my news sources, but really I'm just there for the comedy - same reason I primarily watch cspan. The coverage was mostly critical of Trump. I'm not super informed about Fox's program, but I think you have the Hannity/Fox&friends/ and whoever the lady in the purple dress is, who are basically doing GOP propaganda, and then you have a couple slightly more critical shows. Of course they got a vicious beating by their fans. The top voted comment on one of the videos was that Fox calling the press conference a "bad performance" was the proof that Fox has been compromised by the deep state. | |
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07-18-2018 04:38 PM
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OMG this is too good. Remember during the repub primaries when they had candidates sign some sort of pledge promising not to wig-out if they lost. They did that FOR Trump. They were afraid he'd sue, or run as an independent, or some other such nonsense. And even though he signed, there was much consternation about what he would actually do if/when he lost. Granted, Trump did plenty to fan that fire. |
07-18-2018 04:42 PM
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07-18-2018 05:33 PM
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Well I didn't watch everything from Fox, but the one bit I did see and posted above was predictably tame with the criticism. I think there are one or two guys like Shep Smith who are pretty critical and like you say, get all kinds of death threats from people whose fingers are too fat to change the channel on the remote when he comes on. | |
07-18-2018 07:05 PM
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Interesting comment from that vid | |
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07-18-2018 07:07 PM
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Also from that vid | |
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07-19-2018 09:03 AM
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07-19-2018 12:00 PM
#3017
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I don't understand. Is your position that he can't lose? Or that theorizing on what a blue wave would look like in regards to reactions of Trump and his base is for some reason off limits? | |
07-19-2018 01:18 PM
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It's my confident prediction that he won't lose. |
07-19-2018 04:58 PM
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So remember a few weeks ago when Dems were running around with their hair on fire demanding that candidates endorse a policy for the abolition of I.C.E. |
Last edited by BananaStand; 07-20-2018 at 09:59 AM. | |
07-20-2018 09:34 AM
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Ha, that's a pretty shrewd move. | |
07-20-2018 11:25 AM
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YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH DEMS IN 2018 BABY!!! |
07-20-2018 01:10 PM
#3022
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Nice to see things are back to normal. | |
07-20-2018 01:16 PM
#3023
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07-29-2018 11:10 PM
#3024
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There is a very real chance that President Trump will be a failure if he doesn't put the criminals of the previous administration in prison. |
07-30-2018 08:58 AM
#3025
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Who would that be and how does he do it without getting cucked by the activist courts? | |
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07-30-2018 09:41 AM
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07-31-2018 07:48 PM
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07-31-2018 08:46 PM
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07-31-2018 09:02 PM
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07-31-2018 10:13 PM
#3030
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I'm not sure I follow. How does Obama make Trump fail as a president? | |
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08-01-2018 10:28 PM
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08-01-2018 10:28 PM
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08-02-2018 12:07 AM
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It is too expensive they said | |
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08-02-2018 12:29 AM
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Last edited by oskar; 08-02-2018 at 12:35 AM.
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08-02-2018 12:33 AM
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Yeah... but it still worked. Nothing matters except image to Trumps core base. | |
Last edited by oskar; 08-02-2018 at 12:38 AM.
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08-02-2018 12:48 AM
#3036
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I especially like this from the Fox Insider article | |
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08-02-2018 06:54 AM
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They were right |
Last edited by BananaStand; 08-02-2018 at 08:53 AM. | |
08-02-2018 06:55 AM
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08-02-2018 07:13 AM
#3039
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Dude, I'm starting to believe that your mind is about as dense as a neutron star. It's actually impressive. | |
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08-02-2018 07:21 AM
#3040
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I see you've never heard about lobbyists. The government just did all that shit on its own, according to you. This is probably beneath your high IQ. | |
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08-02-2018 07:31 AM
#3041
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Donald Trump: "Single-payer will bankrupt our country, because it's more than we take in, for just health care." | |
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08-02-2018 08:28 AM
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08-02-2018 08:33 AM
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The government did all that by deceiving the people. Said it's not a tax. Then beat court challenges by citing it's ability to levy taxes. |
08-02-2018 08:34 AM
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08-02-2018 08:51 AM
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In 2008, Healthcare cost $X |
Last edited by BananaStand; 08-02-2018 at 11:14 AM. | |
08-02-2018 08:59 AM
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08-02-2018 09:09 AM
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By the way... |
08-02-2018 11:20 AM
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"For most cancers, 5-year net survival remains among the highest in the world in the USA and Canada, in Australia and New Zealand, and in Finland, Iceland, Norway, and Sweden." | |
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08-02-2018 11:30 AM
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2.../#140fe9ac4b67 |
08-02-2018 11:34 AM
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The number seems to be 22. Depends on your criteria but I'd say most of those countries qualify as socialist if you're looking at their public healthcare systems. | |
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08-02-2018 11:42 AM
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Well, you spend $10.348 per person, the world on average spends $5.169 per person, Finland seems to spend $4.415 per person. For that kind of money it'd better be good. Funnily enough it's only marginally better, not twice as good. | |
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08-02-2018 12:13 PM
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08-02-2018 12:15 PM
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So what's the honest truth about Finland. |
08-02-2018 12:30 PM
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08-02-2018 12:32 PM
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+2T is not going to hurt in any case now, would it? | |
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08-02-2018 12:34 PM
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08-02-2018 12:35 PM
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08-02-2018 12:43 PM
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Mental density??? Quite clear point??? |
08-02-2018 12:43 PM
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You do realize that it's a private study that had that conclusion right? The conclusion proponents have been claiming all along? Or maybe not. | |
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08-02-2018 12:45 PM
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08-02-2018 12:46 PM
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It most definitely will hurt if A) it reduces the quality of care, and B) prevents us from pursuing deregulation and free-market solutions that would generate many times more savings. |
Last edited by BananaStand; 08-02-2018 at 01:10 PM. | |
08-02-2018 12:50 PM
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what facts am I damning? |
08-02-2018 12:50 PM
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08-02-2018 12:52 PM
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Last edited by BananaStand; 08-02-2018 at 12:55 PM. | |
08-02-2018 12:58 PM
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It kinda does. |
08-02-2018 01:02 PM
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08-02-2018 01:05 PM
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Still waiting to see why the math was wrong? |
08-02-2018 01:09 PM
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MFA explained: |
08-02-2018 02:40 PM
#3069
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Medicare is socialized, gov't healthcare, and Americans love it. | |
08-02-2018 02:50 PM
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08-02-2018 03:02 PM
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My grandfather was one of those people who lived on a diet of red meat, coffee, and beer for more than half century. Guess what....docs told him his ticker was fucked. They said "We can give you seven bypasses and maybe buy you 10 more years". Medicare paid. |
08-02-2018 03:20 PM
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Source? |
08-02-2018 03:59 PM
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08-02-2018 04:15 PM
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Just because statistics are used in a subjective analysis, doesn't meant that the statistics themselves are subjective. |
08-02-2018 04:40 PM
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What you're describing is in addition to my point, not in exception to my point. | |