*** The Official MAGAposting thread ***

[oskar]

What if it gives you autism that replaces your current autism and it's less bad autism?

[Poopadoop]

What if autism gives you chicken pox?

[Poopadoop]

You know your theory sucks when the "let's pay someone to accuse Mueller of sexual assault" guy endorses it.

https://twitter.com/JacobAWohl/statu...02427072094210

[Savy]

I'd argue both were probably quite under diagnosed 30 or so years ago. Now rather than being a diagnosis which can be used to help benefit the person being diagnosed it's more used as an excuse as to why things are worse/can't be done.

[MadMojoMonkey]

Dyslexic students at my university can request extended time for their exams, and it's typically 2x as much time.

Funny thing is that we give all 700+ introphys students more than that amount of time for every exam.
It's still not uncommon for a dyslexic student to request still more time.

As if anyone is increasing their score on an exam after sitting in a chair with no food for 5 hours. Whatever points you earn on that test almost certainly came in the first 2 - 3 hours. At some point, you just gotta admit defeat. At some point, it's a cruelty on our part to extend the time.

[boost]

wait, I can't remember, is Ong a flat earther?

[OngBonga]

wait, I can't remember, is Ong a flat earther?

Haha you clearly didn't see my discussions with mojo in the physics thread about gravity.

[oskar]

This is so dumb it's making me feel dizzy:

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/...e_every_slave/

[oskar]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...00254151954432
https://twitter.com/mickbk/status/1065624061055721473

christ

[Poopadoop]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...00254151954432
https://twitter.com/mickbk/status/1065624061055721473

christ

First one was to be expected. Of course one cold day debunks every global warming theory.

Second one is wtf. Is he planning on bringing back steamships? When he said MAGA I didn't realize he meant "...like in 1850."

Also "You gotta be Einstein to work with electromagnetic." Really? I should get a Nobel Prize for knowing how to use my lawnmower I guess.

[oskar]

First one was to be expected. Of course one cold day debunks every global warming theory.

Second one is wtf. Is he planning on bringing back steamships? When he said MAGA I didn't realize he meant "...like in 1850."

Also "You gotta be Einstein to work with electromagnetic." Really? I should get a Nobel Prize for knowing how to use my lawnmower I guess.

oh wow, you've completely missed this meme:
https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-...er-trump-says/

It is a long lasting concern of the POTUS that magnets are too complicated and that steam is preferable for that reason.

[OngBonga]

If he said Maxwell instead of Einstein I'd have been impressed.

[Poopadoop]

"The greatest jobs president ever."

[Poopadoop]

This is what I don't understand about the American press. Normally, he just lies, the reporters all know he's lying, and they go 'oh, ok' and move on to the next question. Then later they whine about how he keeps lying. Well, if it's a problem for you, why not call him out on it right there like she did?

[Poopadoop]

Ruh Roh!




...and the walls are closing in.

[oskar]

Under all of of this, my favorite thing is... you remember when Trump said he didn't listen to the Khashoggi tape because it's "a suffering tape" and there's no need for him to listen to it. Well there's that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwHe...youtu.be&t=460

I'm feeling surprisingly solemn about what's happening this week. I was really starting to root for Trump 2020 to get that civil war rolling that you fuckers so duly deserve. Looks like that's not going to happen. Other than that I'm not thinking much about US politics. What I am thinking about is one unassuming man doing time for credit card fraud in some federal prison. He doesn't know it yet, but some day in the not too distant future he's going to become the first person to prison rape a former president of the United States. And even though there is no way for him to know that, I imagine that at this very moment, he takes a little break from his mashed potatoes, looks up and smiles.

[Poopadoop]

More looking forward to the trial myself, with live updates from Trump via twitter. "Witnesses totally lying about rigged witch hunt! Say I knew about collusion and even encouraged it. Witch hunt! Also, Ivanka the sexiest witness ever!"

[Poopadoop]

Tbh though, a big part of me just wishes he would fucking die and we'd be done with him.

Where's a crazed nut with a gun when you need one? Oh yeah, they're all his supporters.

[oskar]

Came to the US as a baby. Legal permanent resident. Voted illegally because she claims she wasn't allowed to. -> 8 year prison sentence.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b0a173c02305c1

I am on the edge of my seat to see how many years the people who destroyed thousands of ballots in NC last month will get.

Spoiler: Show

It's gonna be zero!

[Poopadoop]

#MAGA

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-46538122

[oskar]

#MAGA

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-46538122

This has been the best season so far. That hearing was so fucking funny. "Why does the president come up when I google the word idiot" - "Well ma'am, our algorithm tries to erm match terms with their most appropriate counter part, based on a vast database of..."
He's a fucking idiot! What do you expect, lady?

Another highlight was when the presidents cyber security expert thought his twitter got hacked because he doesn't understand how hyperlinks work.

I can imagine where wuf stands right now because I've been reading T_D, but I really want him to come back for the finale because I'm pretty sure I called all of it... it's too soon to say for sure, but it feels so close.

[Poopadoop]

Don't forget I called the finale as Trump holed up in the WH bunker ordering Pence to put a bullet in his head. And Pence will do it.

Or, could be Trump on trial using Google to prove he's not smart enough to collude.

Or, maybe it'll be that surprise ending (well surprise to everyone but Wuf), where Mueller swoops down on Hillary, Obama, and Comey and puts them all away on Alcatraz and America is saved.

[Poopadoop]

Assuming Trump somehow stays out of prison till 2020, what will the R's do? If they run him, they'll lose badly, and if they replace him they'll lose every single state cause the 33% of the population that thinks he's Jesus will vote D out of spite.

[oskar]

I saw a Joe Rogan clip of him and Anthony Cumia theorizing how Trumps ability to not give a fuck is what gives him the superpower not to get subpoenaed. No you fucks, it's the GOP majority congress. Well guess what we won't have in 2019?

I liked that Nancy Pelosi of all people called the president an insecure manlet on camera. I don't care what TYT says, but that makes Nancy Pelosi alright in my book. I'm slightly disappointed that they bothered to bring a proposal instead of just repeating "why isn't mexico paying for it?" every time Trump brings up the budget.

[Poopadoop]

"why isn't mexico paying for it?" every time Trump brings up the budget.

Mexico is paying for it through the new USMCFT or whatever that trade agreement is called. But then, for some reason Trump still needs another $30b from congress. That's some serious 3D chess going on there!

[oskar]

https://youtu.be/9xqGu66D6VU?t=2866

James Comey makes a good point.
If Trump gets removed by force, 1/3 of americans will believe it was a deep state coup, and these are also the dumbest 1/3 and the most likely to own firearms 1/3. But how do you weight that against the damage 2 more years of Trump would do? Soyboy Clinton tried to destract from his cumstains with a casual act of war. I'm not too keen on seeing the Trump version of that old presidential panic reaction would turn out to be.

[Poopadoop]

Trump at war would be kinda funny if not so tragic. I could see him overruling his generals and ordering some really stupid shit because he thinks the US has invisible planes.

[oskar]

Oh wow, looks like mexico is actually going to pay for the wall...
If you change the meaning of mexico, pay and wall:

https://www.gofundme.com/thetrumpwall

[MadMojoMonkey]

I have no idea how to combat senseless exclusionism.
How do you encourage people to realize that the people coming across the border are literally no different than the people in their own extended family, who are already Americans?

[rant]
Oh no, they commit crimes! We all know Americans never commit crimes, so it's a valid criticism to vilify those crime-doers.
They want jobs! Those assholes want to come into our country and create value! The nerve!
They send money to their families in other countries! The richest Americans send most of their money into off-shore bank accounts with more favorable interest rates and other perks compared to American banks. They have the most incentive to find loopholes in tax laws, and they can afford to pay a specialist to find those loopholes. You think poor people sending money to their families even registers on this scale? C'mon... just c'mon.

Grow some balls and stop being afraid of people just because you haven't met them, yet, or their skin is a slightly different color, or they have less money than you.
Cowards.
[/rant]

[oskar]

I have no idea how to combat senseless exclusionism.
How do you encourage people to realize that the people coming across the border are literally no different than the people in their own extended family, who are already Americans?

It's going to take a couple of generations because a people don't change their world view in a statistically significant way during their lifetime. It's not like americans have changed between Obama and Trump, but the far right was mobilized by fear, and the left was not. You're going to have a slingshot effect next election where a progressive candidate will annihilate whatever republican runs against him.

From an outside perspective it looks like that at this point there can be no reasonable doubt that Trump is acting in the interest of Russia and SA. The way the pullout of Syria was handled makes no sense. If you're going to pull out, why not at least discuss it with the Pentagon... unless you were on the phone with Erdogan and he said: We'll cover up for your buddies in SA, and all we want in return is a small blood offering of 30,000 Kurds.

The US is not acting as a sovereign nation and the reason is that the POTUS holds too much power and lacks the necessary checks and balances, and there's no easy way out.

[Poopadoop]

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/12/20/p...doc/index.html

Seems Mad Dog wasn't mad enough to work in the WH any more.

tl;dr

1. We need to keep our allies.
2. We need to push back against China and Russia.
3. I give up.

[Poopadoop]

More winning.

[MadMojoMonkey]

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/12/20/p...doc/index.html

tl;dr

1. We need to keep our allies.
2. We need to push back against China and Russia.
3. I give up.

"My views on treating allies with respect and also being clear-eyed about both malign actors and strategic competitors are strongly held and informed by over four decades of immersion in these issues. We must do everything possible to advance an international order that is most conducive to our security, prosperity and values, and we are strengthened in this effort by the solidarity of our alliances.

Because you have the right to have a Secretary of Defense whose views are better aligned with yours on these and other subjects, I believe it is right for me to step down from my position."

We should not shoot ourselves in the foot, and we should create a lawful world. Since you don't agree, I'm out.

[oskar]

Not sure which one I love more. Him signing a blank piece of paper next to a comically large stack of folders while staunchly looking at the camera, or using an ms-paint mockup of "the wall" to underline how beautiful it would look.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...39448461987841
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...56868190834689

[oskar]

Every day since the shutdown, T_D has upvoted this incomprehensible meme:

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/...rward_to_day2/
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/..._here_we_come/
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/..._here_we_come/
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/...ady_for_day_6/
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/...ady_for_day_7/

Meanwhile at Fox News, on every video related to the shutdown, the top voted comments are "keep it shut down" (why) and "close the border!" (to what end)

I want to find one Trumple to explain to me what the fuck they mean by any of this? What do they think is going to happen? How do they imagine Trump's going to come out ahead in this?

[Poopadoop]

Every day since the shutdown, T_D has upvoted this incomprehensible meme:

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/...rward_to_day2/
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/..._here_we_come/
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/..._here_we_come/
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/...ady_for_day_6/
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/...ady_for_day_7/

Wuf's finger must be getting sore by now!

Meanwhile at Fox News, on every video related to the shutdown, the top voted comments are "keep it shut down" (why)

Someone whose initials are JDT floated the idea that the money "saved" by the shutdown could be used to fund the wall. 'Cause all those gov't employees will just forget they haven't been paid while the shutdown is on and you know, then you use that money to build The Wall.

I mean Plan A was to get Mexico to pay for it. Frankly, this new Plan B seems more likely to succeed.

and "close the border!" (to what end)

To keep out the baby rapists until they can build The Wall ldo?


Also,

DvODUegUUAAXY2R.jpg

[MadMojoMonkey]

Meanwhile at Fox News, on every video related to the shutdown, the top voted comments are "keep it shut down" (why) and "close the border!" (to what end)

BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAA!

Who's looking at the border if the gubmint is shut down? Those are gubmint jobs, you idiots.

[oskar]

I know you're the wrong person to ask because you're not a free thinker, but if closing the border keeps out all the baddies, what do they need the wall for?

I have am aware of the meme that it's a good thing the government is shut down because it's not needed. With one of the branches getting their paychecks suspended being border security, and the shutdown being about border security, it is hard for me to see how this is anything but fucking retarded.

[Poopadoop]

I have am aware of the meme that it's a good thing the government is shut down because it's not needed. With one of the branches getting their paychecks suspended being border security, and the shutdown being about border security, it is hard for me to see how this is anything but fucking retarded.

You don't pay anyone until you have $30b saved up then you declare the government bankrupt, but secretly keep the money and build the Wall with the money you scammed from the gov't employees.

Then, you don't pay the company you hired to build the Wall, but send the bill to Mexico. And if they don't pay, so what? it's not your money anyways.

And with the $30b you kept, you build those hotels in Russia you've been planning since 2016.

And then when you get impeached, or lose in 2020, you declare the investiation a Witch Hunt and/or the election rigged. Then sit back and watch the ratings soar!

[Poopadoop]

So, two refugee (or "economic migrant") kids have died now in US concentration camps. The second one here had 103F fever, obviously an infection of some sort (turns out it was 'flu), wasn't treated, but was sent back to the concentration camp to possibly infect other people and died.

Himmler would have been proud.

[oskar]

I decided to ask the question in the obvious place with the swift result of:

You've been banned from participating in r/AskThe_Donald

Literally just asked what the meme was about and what result they are imagining will come from the shutdown. That was my first post on that sub.

The only other sub I've ever been banned from is /r/conservative - I have zero posts on /r/conservative. I was banned after I reported a nazi sympathizer to the mods.

At least online the 30 Trump percent are literally this crowd:



If you think they care about dead brown children, I think you're gravely mistaken.

[oskar]

[Savy]

Why do you actually care what a fringe group of asshats think or post on the internet? Your caring about the situation is probably as bad as people who give "thoughts and prayers" but do fuck all else. You're just advertising these groups and doing them absolutely no harm.

Example, do you actually think that Stefan, whoever that is, actually believes that? Or do you think it's just a good twitter post to incite tonnes of white working class people who feel like they are ignored and having everything taken away from them? In turn furthering his own agenda to make money from this group of people?

My guess is the latter.

[oskar]

Why do you actually care what a fringe group of asshats think or post on the internet?

It's entertainment. As far as advertising them. Like 5 people read this, so...
If I was american I'd feel like I had a duty to get active politically because it looks like it's really going to be rough, but then again I should probably be active politically in my own country, but even here it's just too fucking retarded. I can't deal with it.

[Savy]

It's entertainment. As far as advertising them. Like 5 people read this, so...
If I was american I'd feel like I had a duty to get active politically because it looks like it's really going to be rough, but then again I should probably be active politically in my own country, but even here it's just too fucking retarded. I can't deal with it.

Yeah but now I know who Stefan Molyneux is and when you're only reaching 5 people that's a bad outcome.

[Poopadoop]

Yeah but now I know who Stefan Molyneux is and when you're only reaching 5 people that's a bad outcome.

What is your point?

Does someone mocking a guy's retarded beliefs make you wanna follow him and take on his retarded beliefs and be a retard too?

[MadMojoMonkey]

It's entertainment. As far as advertising them. Like 5 people read this, so...
If I was american I'd feel like I had a duty to get active politically because it looks like it's really going to be rough, but then again I should probably be active politically in my own country, but even here it's just too fucking retarded. I can't deal with it.

I actually think it's this level of political interaction that causes America's problems. It's all reactionary outrage, then head in sand, then repeat.

Trump is in office because the Reps felt like they weren't being listened to or addressed by the Obama administration. Obama was in office because Dems felt the same way about Bush 2. Bush 2 'cause Clinton... Clinton 'cause Bush 1.

People get all complacent after they vote, as if that person is anything other than another politician with their own goals and agendas. The solution (I suspect) is to stop trusting the people you vote for, not to vote against people you distrust.

[oskar]

I actually think it's this level of political interaction that causes America's problems. It's all reactionary outrage, then head in sand, then repeat.

Trump is in office because the Reps felt like they weren't being listened to or addressed by the Obama administration. Obama was in office because Dems felt the same way about Bush 2. Bush 2 'cause Clinton... Clinton 'cause Bush 1.

People get all complacent after they vote, as if that person is anything other than another politician with their own goals and agendas. The solution (I suspect) is to stop trusting the people you vote for, not to vote against people you distrust.

I'm just puzzled by the lack of immediate reaction. Sure there were some protests when Sessions was fired... Within my lifetime, I've seen Seattle burn for less than that. I literally remember who it was that came up to me and showed me a paper and said: This is the town Nirvana is from! - because it was 1999 and if you were a teenager in 1999, that's how you did geography. I had to look up what that was about. Some WTO shit. Don't even care.
Right now you have a dog whistling racist in the white house who is without any reasonable doubt acting on behalf of hostile nations. And the best you can do is a sign that says "this is not my president." At least burn a fucking car down. Burn down an expensive one, they're more likely to be insured... make a point, don't be an asshole.

[oskar]

I think in the short term to drive change you can only mobilize your base. I don't see any way you could possibly turn someone who is still a Trump supporter. These people are lost.

[oskar]

I asked the mods to clarify the reason for my ban. Got more banned:

You have been temporarily muted from r/AskThe_Donald. You will not be able to message the moderators of r/AskThe_Donald for 72 hours.

[Poopadoop]

I asked the mods to clarify the reason for my ban. Got more banned:

this made me lol.

I almost want to get on T_D but I feel like just reading it will make me lose about 50 IQ points.

Also, you just told Savy about T_D; now he's going to turn into a Nazi. Hope you're proud of yourself.

[OngBonga]

He does have a point. There are a lot of people who think it's literally impossible to be racist to a white person, which is beautifully ironic, since it's usually left wing people who despise racism, and they are being racist without even realising it.

[Poopadoop]

There are a lot of people who think it's literally impossible to be racist to a white person,

I have never met such an imbecile (but if you point me to their website, I will soon take on their beliefs as my own).

[OngBonga]

Also, if you want to find people who think you can't be racist to a white person, spend an hour or so on Twitter.

[oskar]

https://youtu.be/D7jYwXIwnlU?t=295
Here he is, having a cry because of how proud he is to be white.

[OngBonga]

I nodded in approval at that comment from Stefan, in the two minutes it's been since I read it I've already visited 15 Nazi websites and shaven my head.

[Savy]

I nodded in approval at that comment from Stefan, in the two minutes it's been since I read it I've already visited 15 Nazi websites and shaven my head.

Shit, I did shave my head recently too.

This twitter pushing an agenda is scary considering I don't even use twitter.

[Poopadoop]

Shit, I did shave my head recently too.

This twitter pushing an agenda is scary considering I don't even use twitter.

You gotta stop reading Oskar's posts. He's creating a world full of monsters.

[Savy]

You gotta stop reading Oskar's posts. He's creating a world full of monsters.

Off his wiki page FOO sounds like a reasonable thing which is obvious and a stateless society seems pretty good to me too. Just need to start hating people who are either not white or not men and I'm good to go.

I want to know how this FOO stuff is a cult.

[Poopadoop]

Off his wiki page FOO sounds like a reasonable thing ....

Oskar has a Wiki page? It's even worse than I thought!

[OngBonga]

Do you recognise the point this Stefan imbecile is making? That selectively deciding which race of people you will protect from racism and which ones you won't is... racist?

[Poopadoop]

Do you recognise the point this Stefan imbecile is making? That selectively deciding which race of people you will protect from racism and which ones you won't is... racist?

I didn't read him because I was afraid I would become a Nazi.

But otherwise you're absolutely right.

[oskar]

You'll never guess who Stefan thinks is responsible for the 2008 housing crisis!

https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/s...68440826314752

[oskar]

I do materialize evil sometimes.

IQ

Yup that's exactly what I find so entertaining about the IQ argument. It falls flat on its face the moment you just think one step ahead what the implications are.
Like when molyneux says: the housing crash happened because they lent money to black people and black people are stupid.

What I like to do is make a million concessions that make no sense but that aren't even relevant to the core argument. Let's say if you lend stupid people money, that's going to lead to a market crash that leads to trillion dollar corporate welfare. Let's say black people are on average more stupid than whites by a significant margin regardless of education, location and socioeconomic status.
Color is still not the best identifier of low IQ. Education is... or let's go straight to IQ test. If that's your argument: low IQ people need to be discriminated against to save the country from banks needing a bailout, then discriminate against low-IQ people! Why are we not suggesting that? Because the argument never was about IQ, it's about whites being superior. You never wanted stupid white people not to get loans. But the moment I say that, I'm "pulling the race card."

[oskar]

Jeanine Pirro addressing Trump on live TV is something out of an Ed Wood movie:

https://youtu.be/UQbVKUiD_2E?t=411

[MadMojoMonkey]

You make an interesting point.
I was living in Seattle in '99, and working downtown at the Westin Hotel, where some of the bigwigs in the WTO conference were staying (including Bill Gates, if the rumors were true). The WTO protests were a fucking hassle. Most of the protesters were literally wearing GAP and Banana Republic clothing while protesting. Hypocrites. Some of them were protesting WTO, but plenty of them were just in the crowds participating in a big clusterfuck.
The police response was pretty bad. If you actually lived downtown, you had to sneak past "curfew" lines just to get home. I had a friend get shot with a plastic bullet just trying to get home after a night out drinking. Those things are no joke. They're non-lethal, but hurt like hell and leave a 3 inch bruise (on torso.. prob. varies).
After curfew, the police were shooting tear gas at peaceful protesters, forcing them out of the downtown area - into residential neighborhoods. Well, now people who were trying to sleep are out in the streets protesting the cops, not WTO. Then the cops tear gas again, and now people who weren't out of their houses yet are literally forced into the streets to retreat from the tear gas. My friends and I were bouncing to each others apartments every night to get away from the smell of tear gas.
Not much of the protests I saw were about the WTO. They started that way, small, but the police response was bad and caused the situation to escalate.

[oskar]

BUT! We never heard of that WTO thing again, thus solving the problem once and for all.

Actually what restores my faith a little bit is that the most popular topic on pro trump sites is how their friends and family have stopped talking to them. It makes me happy every time a new one of those topics pops up

I enjoy reading the FOX news comment sections. Most popular topics: AOC wore an expensive suit once - lol hypocrisy amirite!
And also: Obama built a 10ft wall around his mansion, we learned it from Trump tweets - also hypocrisy, because we don't even bother to fact check someone who averages 15 lies a day.

Fox even ran a story on the tweet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9U4qD4wTg8
They must have fact checked it, so they ran the story as "Trump tweeted." not to be liable I guess. You must have zero conscience - knowing you're the only network the president doesn't call "fake news" and you knowingly report fake news to help the president. Amazing stuff.

[Poopadoop]

Oh shit, the wall is only going to cost $5b now. Before it was $30b? I guess he got a discount using his wiley wile. Or is he settling for building only 1/6 of it?

[MadMojoMonkey]

FWIW, a 1-foot wall will do as much as a 20 foot wall, IMO.
It's a symbol more than an impediment.
I am less than 20 feet from a 20 foot ladder. Longer ladders are available. You don't even have to buy them. They're made from sticks.

[Poopadoop]

I thought maybe he was just going to build the frame of the Wall to save money.

[MadMojoMonkey]

The cost of the wall has got to be minuscule compared to the cost of staffing the wall with border control agents.
A wall without guards isn't stopping too many people.

Has anyone heard a politician talk about the manpower needed to make the wall effective? Not maintenance personnel, but actual trained guards?

[Poopadoop]

The cost of the wall has got to be minuscule compared to the cost of staffing the wall with border control agents.
A wall without guards isn't stopping too many people.

Has anyone heard a politician talk about the manpower needed to make the wall effective? Not maintenance personnel, but actual trained guards?

Shouldn't they need fewer trained guards if they have a wall? Otherwise what's the point?

[MadMojoMonkey]

Shouldn't they need fewer trained guards if they have a wall? Otherwise what's the point?

Theoretically... if the wall slows people down so a patrol covers more ground while maintaining enough surveillance to catch people, then fewer guards are needed, but... a 20 foot wall?

If you have a ladder and a rope, that's not slowing you down at all, and if you know the wall is there... then whether ladders or something else... you have a plan for that.
Sure... people surprised to find a wall there will have a tough time of it... once.

[oskar]

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/...ew_year_pedes/

This meme took a nosedive. There's no day 11.

[oskar]

How has there not been a takeshi's castle style wall climbing show by now? Like one team has to build a wall, the other team has to scale it and at the end we take out a calculator and compare man hours and money spent.

I also very much enjoy the new AOC dancing controversy. Like how can you even call yourself a politician if you're not obese and retarded. Or AT LEAST geriatric.