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[CoccoBill]

Someone intent on mass-murder does not have those thoughts. They just don't.

How do u know? Fwiw, "they just don't" and "it just is" are often clear signs of cognitive dissonance.

[BananaStand]

How do u know? Fwiw, "they just don't" and "it just is" are often clear signs of cognitive dissonance.

The thoughts that drive mass-murder are anger at the world. Anger at "being" itself. It's a position of hopelessness that the thinker believes can only be remedied through the introduction of huge amounts of chaos.

That kind of thinking is completely incompatible with a desire to improve one's own life through improving their perceptions and interactions with the world.

A person obsessively and purposefully driven towards chaos can't also be seeking order.

[Poopadoop]

It's a position of hopelessness that the thinker believes can only be remedied through the introduction of huge amounts of chaos.

Reminds me of a certain orange person I keep hearing about in the news.

That kind of thinking is completely incompatible with a desire to improve one's own life through improving their perceptions and interactions with the world.

Presumably that way of thinking isn't ingrained, otherwise it would afflict six year olds too and they would go on killing rampages. If the development of that way of thinking could be arrested or channeled in some more positive direction, then prevention seems possible.

[BananaStand]

Presumably that way of thinking isn't ingrained, otherwise it would afflict six year olds too and they would go on killing rampages. If the development of that way of thinking could be arrested or channeled in some more positive direction, then prevention seems possible.

Well, we can debate this. But assume for a minute I'll stipulate

The kind of evaluations, identifications, and classifications that go into this would be so invasive that I would rather live in a world with mass-shootings.

Like...we could end rape if we just castrated all the men. I'd rather people get raped.

[CoccoBill]

The thoughts that drive mass-murder are anger at the world. Anger at "being" itself. It's a position of hopelessness that the thinker believes can only be remedied through the introduction of huge amounts of chaos.

That kind of thinking is completely incompatible with a desire to improve one's own life through improving their perceptions and interactions with the world.

Well it's great your clairvoyance extends to mass-murderers too. Unfortunately it isn't as black and white as in your world. There are a multitude of reasons and motivations behind them, but there's nothing to suggest that they're not detectable, preventable and treatable. They're not caused by physical deficiencies, traits or conditions. I'm not talking about medication, that's the aspect of psychiatry where I agree with you, diagnoses and prescriptions are handed out way too easily. Then again therapy, counseling and other preventive measures definitely have their place and should be used more.

[BananaStand]

Then again therapy, counseling and other preventive measures definitely have their place and should be used more.

These remedies can only be used on someone who doesn't want them through force. Using these methods through force has been proven ineffective.

what are you not getting?

[Poopadoop]

These remedies can only be used on someone who doesn't want them through force. Using these methods through force has been proven ineffective.

Again, making the assumption the person is born that way and never wanted help before they became a psychopath. Maybe had they received help in time, they wouldn't have ended up with the mindset that mass murder is a better option than seeking help.

[BananaStand]

Again, making the assumption the person is born that way and never wanted help before they became a psychopath. Maybe had they received help in time, they wouldn't have ended up with the mindset that mass murder is a better option than seeking help.

And you think the government stands a chance at accomplishing this???

[Poopadoop]

And you think the government stands a chance at accomplishing this???

I think they stand a better chance if they try than if they don't try, yes.

[CoccoBill]

These remedies can only be used on someone who doesn't want them through force. Using these methods through force has been proven ineffective.

what are you not getting?

Your lack of understanding. Do you think mass-murderers are born that way, that all we can do about them is shoot first?