*** The Official MAGAposting thread ***

[BananaStand]

I already know the Fox News version of reality, and I appreciate that my views are discordant with it. So I don't expect to change your mind. I do find it somewhat bemusing though how closed your mind is, as an intelligent person, to any view that doesn't agree with your own.

It's really not a matter of having an open or closed mind. This is an issue of fact.

There's absolutely no way you can enjoy the success that Trump has, and be stupid. That's not a closed-minded statement.

[Poopadoop]

There's absolutely no way you can enjoy the success that Trump has, and be stupid. That's not a closed-minded statement.

No it is. And the reason it is is because it oversimplifies things to 'he rich, ergo he smart' and 'he won the election, ergo he smart'. There's a lot more that went into both of those events than Trump's own abilities. I'm not disputing his business acumen, but as I've argued, a large part of his election success seems to me to have occurred despite his actions rather than because of them.

I can beat anybody at chess no matter how good they are, as long as they make more mistake than I do. That doesn't make me a great chess player.

[BananaStand]

No it is. And the reason it is is because it oversimplifies things to 'he rich, ergo he smart' and 'he won the election, ergo he smart'.

Those are your words, not mine. The statement I provided is not an oversimplification. It's a summary of several more detailed statements I've provided already. It's obvious that your mind is impervious to reason, so I saved my fingers some work.

I'm not disputing his business acumen,

Yes, you absolutely are. You're being ignorant, intentionally or unintentionally, of the fact that it takes a tremendous amount of social-acumen to succeed in business, real-estate, TV, and politics the way Trump has.

He has to talk to people!!!

In fact, he has to talk to ALOT of people. And virtually all of those people are individuals of great success, fame, talent, or notoriety in their own right. Trump keeps succeeding, so I can only assume that the interactions he's having with those people are going just fine.

Are you going to suggest that ALL of those people lack social acumen as well?

You're starting to sound like the goth kid who stays home alone on prom night and says "only losers go to Prom"

I can beat anybody at chess no matter how good they are, as long as they make more mistake than I do. That doesn't make me a great chess player.

What if we're not talking about chess, but instead winning elections. And your opponent is an accomplished politician with savvy, experience, and a record to run on. Under what circumstances would you make less mistakes than your opponent.

Now ask yourself, under what circumstances would you make less mistakes than 18 consecutive opponents?

At what point are you just a pretty good chess player?