*** The Official MAGAposting thread ***

[Poopadoop]

No, intelligence is the ability to acquire knowledge and skills. Everything else you listed is knowledge and skills.

No, that's not how it works. If intelligence were as simple and basic as that, any 'intelligent' person would be able to acquire any set of knowledge and skills. We know that doesn't happen.

Perhaps the way to make you understand the concept is to view things as 'aptitudes' rather than 'intelligence'. A person may have an aptitude to be a great musician but not a great mechanic, whereas another person may have an aptitude to be a great doctor but not a great musician, and a third person may an aptitude to ....etc. etc.etc. Each of these people is intelligent by your definition of being able to acquire knowledge and skills, but the domain in which they are best suited to do so differs from person to person.

Trump is intelligent at acquiring business skills. He is not (imho) intelligent in the skills required to be a non-moron in the social realm, such as knowing what to say and when to keep your mouth shut, or thinking before you act.

[BananaStand]

He is not (imho) intelligent in the skills required to be a non-moron in the social realm, such as knowing what to say and when to keep your mouth shut, or thinking before you act.

Completely impossible given where he is right now.

[Poopadoop]

Completely impossible given where he is right now.

Arguably, he won despite himself not because of himself.

[BananaStand]

Arguably, he won despite himself not because of himself.

That's why it just HAD to be Russia right??

[Poopadoop]

That's why it just HAD to be Russia right??

The influence of Russia was certainly evident, but is hard to measure. Comey (publicly) reopening email-gate ten days before the election was almost certainly a bigger factor. Before that, IIRC Trump was down by 12 points in the aggregate polling.

But in general, my argument rests mainly on the premise that given a choice between two bad candidates, people took what they felt was the lesser of two evils.

[BananaStand]

But in general, my argument rests mainly on the premise that given a choice between two bad candidates, people took what they felt was the lesser of two evils.

And what happened before that? People took what they felt was the least of 17 evils?? Are you really being serious right now?

[Poopadoop]

And what happened before that? People took what they felt was the least of 17 evils?? Are you really being serious right now?

Primaries are a different matter as you know because they're largely based on the question of who has the best chance of winning rather than who will make a better president. Moreover, the voters in a primary represent only the party in question, not the population as a whole.

[Poopadoop]

Are you really being serious right now?

Are you?

Before you became fully indoctrinated by Fox News and the reverberations of your own rhetoric, you said something quite similar to my argument, along the lines of 'at least he's not as bad as Hillary'

[BananaStand]

The man acquired billions of dollars through complex transactions and investments all over the world. He went on to phenomenal success in television, clothing, hospitality and real-estate. He turned his name into a worldwide brand.

In the course of doing that he earned the love and respect of his children and family.

Then he walked into the political arena and destroyed 16 overwhelmingly qualified republican oppenents.

Then he overtook a Democratic heir-apparent by running an extraordinary campaign.

And since then he has attracted to himself, people of supreme intellect and gravitas (Sessions, Tillerson, Mattis, etc)


There is no way it's even fathomable that Trump lacks intelligence in any form, or interpretation that you're describing. It's just not possible that Trump could accomplish all of this and be poised to do it all over again in 3 years, while simultaneously being a socially inept drooler.

Just stop, you're embarrassing yourself.

[Poopadoop]

The man acquired billions of dollars through complex transactions and investments all over the world. He went on to phenomenal success in television, clothing, hospitality and real-estate. He turned his name into a worldwide brand.

In the course of doing that he earned the love and respect of his children and family.

Then he walked into the political arena and destroyed 16 overwhelmingly qualified republican oppenents.

Then he overtook a Democratic heir-apparent by running an extraordinary campaign.

And since then he has attracted to himself, people of supreme intellect and gravitas (Sessions, Tillerson, Mattis, etc)


There is no way it's even fathomable that Trump lacks intelligence in any form, or interpretation that you're describing. It's just not possible that Trump could accomplish all of this and be poised to do it all over again in 3 years, while simultaneously being a socially inept drooler.

Just stop, you're embarrassing yourself.

I already know the Fox News version of reality, and I appreciate that my views are discordant with it. So I don't expect to change your mind. I do find it somewhat bemusing though how closed your mind is, as an intelligent person, to any view that doesn't agree with your own.

[Jack Sawyer]

That's why it just HAD to be Russia right??

No. It was Debbie Wasserman Schultz throwing the democratic primaries. Thank her. Fuck Russia.

[wufwugy]

Arguably, he won despite himself not because of himself.

It is certainly true that he bears a cost for what he does.

Word is that he was surprised at first at the magnitude of the cost because he thought the media would treat him with a modicum of fairness. Good news for us that he learned that lesson quickly.