Quote Originally Posted by WillburForce
If there is a god and you meet him in heaven when you kick the bucket, do you think that someone, like for instance a blind person or maybe a Welshman, gets to up heaven and is like "Yeah God. Fuck you."

I know I would.
oi!



I've always harboured severe doubts about religion, even from the age of 4 doing classroom prayers in Welsh (which was a foreign language to me at the time), wondering how God could possibly appreciate my prayers considering that he knew that I knew that I didn't understand a fucking word I was saying..

It is pretty impossible to make a case for God ever as far as I'm aware; knowledge is based on logic, repeatable results and independently verifiable observations, therefore to use these techniques to answer a question where the whole point of the question is that the answer is unknown (and subjective) is illogical.


I have personally observed that atheism is as fallible as any religion/viewpoint is with regards to the weaknesses and ego of its subscribers - I have a friend who is vehemently atheist, however in my opinion he uses it in order to ratify a superiority complex. He will get up in the morning and listen to George Carlin and laugh really loudly at the religious jokes. He will listen to Richard Dawkins in his car. He needs to be held back from trying his l33t deb8ing skills on delusional street preachers.

I opine that once you've come to the firm conclusion that there is no God, any further purposeless repetitions and rehashings of an argument that you know to be correct are simply masturbatory - if you know an argument to be infallibly true, why would you need to hear it repeated? Why not just get on with your life? My statement is basically that stumbling across a viewpoint that happens to be logically strong is all too easy to use as an intellectual wanking aid, and, without due care, can halt a person's development as a human being.

Atheism is a step forward in the intellectual evolutionary cycle and its effect on humanity will certainly be good, especially in the more superstitious areas of the world, however in my opinion it is not the full step towards thinking that it would appear to be.