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 Originally Posted by oskar
No, that was just a note on the side. My point was, and I am very confused as to why this is so difficult to grasp: You do not use chromosomes to identify gender. You use visual and auditory clues. Does this person have long hair, breasts. Does the person walk in a certain way. The pitch of the voice. When all clues point to one gender you use the appropriate gender pronoun. To say you don't is simply dishonest. Ben Sharpino says he will always use the pronoun associated with the biological gender, and Spoon said he finds this agreeable, and then a couple posts later contradicts himself directly. So my conclusion is that this is a complete waste of a conversation.
IIRC Shapiro says that when he uses pronouns in public, because that forum is more about being truthful than being kind. In private he will use the person's preferred pronoun to be nice. I'm like 90% sure that's what he said. It was when he and Peterson were on Rubin.
As an observer, I'll say that it isn't so cut and dried to me. I remember back before Bill Nye the Science Guy transformed into Shill Nye the Fake News Guy, gender seemed to be thought equal to sex. And I always thought it was common for femme gays to present like women yet still prefer to be known as men. The gender as a social construct thing, I'm just not sure if that's the case. This is one of those issues that I'm not sure I know what to think.
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