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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    If someone looks like a woman you're going to address that person as a woman.
    No, if someone looks like a woman, I'm going to ask their preferred pronouns.

    Edit: Alternatively, I'll use language in a way that does not presume gender or lack thereof.

    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    How they identify doesn't matter because that's not what I asked.
    It's actually the only thing that matters.

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    Chromosomes and genitals are way down on the list of things you use as clues to identify someone as a man or a woman.
    No, a man is an adult male, and a woman is an adult female. Male and female are determined by chromosomes by definition.

    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    So in the real world you have no chance on basing your pronouns on sex because you can't possibly know it.
    You don't seem to have much experience with enough of a variety of people with regards to gender to understand why you're wrong about just about everything you're saying on the topic.

    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    As I've also already pointed out, there are biological women with Y chromosomes. It's rare but it happens.
    The word you're looking for is intersex, and that does not make them a woman.

    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    Dude, basic reading comprehension. I'm asking how YOU identify them. Not how they identify themselves.
    I have no business identifying them. That's why I ask, as do anyone else who has a clue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
    No, if someone looks like a woman, I'm going to ask their preferred pronouns.

    Edit: Alternatively, I'll use language in a way that does not presume gender or lack thereof.
    So you're either dyslexic or you're trolling. For the 3rd time: not what I asked.
    The word you're looking for is intersex, and that does not make them a woman.
    Well congrats on using wikipedia, but once again it fails you. If you are born with a uterus, ovaries, and no parts of male genitalia, your biological sex is female regardless of your Y chromosome. Like I said this is very rare, I was just bringing it up because you said biological sex is determined by chromosomes when that's not the entire story.

    If you could play devils advocate for something properly it could be interesting but if your debate tactic is to fake cognitive impairment there's nothing in it for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    So you're either dyslexic or you're trolling. For the 3rd time: not what I asked.

    Well congrats on using wikipedia, but once again it fails you. If you are born with a uterus, ovaries, and no parts of male genitalia, your biological sex is female regardless of your Y chromosome. Like I said this is very rare, I was just bringing it up because you said biological sex is determined by chromosomes when that's not the entire story.

    If you could play devils advocate for something properly it could be interesting but if your debate tactic is to fake cognitive impairment there's nothing in it for me.
    Sex is determined by chromosomes, not by genitalia.

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