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[BananaStand]

The Orange Ocular Effect. Since Trump is smart he can't have done anything stupid.

"anything's possible" is not a compelling reason to spend 2 years and triple-digit millions of tax payer dollars on a political stunt whose sole purpose is to undermine a duly elected president.

I posed perfectly plausible explanations for the alleged impropriety, and I posed compelling and salient challenges to the theories of guilt.

The response: "your brain has been turned orange"

News Flash!!! That bullshit is WHY Trump won. So keep it up.

[Poopadoop]

I posed perfectly plausible explanations for the alleged impropriety, and I posed compelling and salient challenges to the theories of guilt.

Your explanations are only plausible on the assumption that Trump is innocent and has the capacity for some measure of self-control. Given the lack of evidence for these premises, there's no reason to find the rest of your arguments compelling.

News Flash!!! That bullshit is WHY Trump won. So keep it up.

Trump won because people accused his followers of being mindless sheep? Lol, ok then.

[BananaStand]

Your explanations are only plausible on the assumption that Trump is innocent and has the capacity for some measure of self-control. Given the lack of evidence for these premises, there's no reason to find the rest of your arguments compelling

The alternate explanation assumes that Trump is guilty of collusion. It assumes that the man who has accumulated immense wealth, achieved celebrity status, and became a wildly successful politician is also monumentally stupid. It assumes that the living icon of business success fails to grasp public relations and political optics in ways that are obvious even to ordinary citizens. And it assumes that efforts to conceal his crime were undermined by an accidental confession to Lester Holt.

Given the lack of evidence for these premises, there's no reason to find that version of events compelling.

Trump won because people accused his followers of being mindless sheep? Lol, ok then.

Trump won because open minded independent thinkers were put off by being called mindless sheep whenever they deviated from the preferred progressive narrative.

[Poopadoop]

The alternate explanation assumes that Trump is guilty of collusion. It assumes that the man who has accumulated immense wealth, achieved celebrity status, and became a wildly successful politician is also monumentally stupid.

Actually, my present preferred hypothesis is that he doesn't like the investigation because it's going to turn up dirt on him that otherwise wouldn't come to light. Money-laundering with Russians is one possibility, given his history of shady dealings (Trump University being the classic example). The guy clearly hasn't been flying straight in his business life and he doesn't want to be investigated under any pretense.

It assumes that the living icon of business success fails to grasp public relations and political optics in ways that are obvious even to ordinary citizens. And it assumes that efforts to conceal his crime were undermined by an accidental confession to Lester Holt.

No, it assumes he lacks an internal censor and/or thinks he can get away with anything like he has his whole life.

Trump won because open minded independent thinkers were put off by being called mindless sheep whenever they deviated from the preferred progressive narrative.

First, referring to yourself as open-minded may be being a bit generous. Of your ~1800 posts here, none of them have ever suggested there's much if any flexibility in your opinions.

Second, if that is true of you, don't assume you're representative of his supporters.

[BananaStand]

Actually, my present preferred hypothesis is that he doesn't like the investigation because it's going to turn up dirt on him that otherwise wouldn't come to light. Money-laundering with Russians is one possibility, given his history of shady dealings (Trump University being the classic example). The guy clearly hasn't been flying straight in his business life and he doesn't want to be investigated under any pretense.

That still assumes that a very stable genius capable of the successes that Trump has enjoyed, is also stupid enough to ignore the fact that firing one guy wouldn't stop the investigation, and that it looks bad.

Whether he's guilty of Russian collusion, or of something else, it doesn't change the fact that he would have nothing to gain by firing Comey. It doesn't change the fact that firing Comey without a good reason would be stupid.

No, it assumes he lacks an internal censor and/or thinks he can get away with anything like he has his whole life.

If that's the case, why is he so worried about Comey? Does not compute. He can't be simultaneously paranoid about the FBI investigation AND confident enough to confess on television.

First, referring to yourself as open-minded may be being a bit generous. Of your ~1800 posts here, none of them have ever suggested there's much if any flexibility in your opinions.

Try using facts or logic to change my mind, not the sensational speculations of failing newspapers.

[Poopadoop]

That still assumes that a very stable genius capable of the successes that Trump has enjoyed, is also stupid enough to ignore the fact that firing one guy wouldn't stop the investigation, and that it looks bad.

Whether he's guilty of Russian collusion, or of something else, it doesn't change the fact that he would have nothing to gain by firing Comey. It doesn't change the fact that firing Comey without a good reason would be stupid.

So when Nixon did it, that proved he was too dumb to be president?

[BananaStand]

So when Nixon did it, that proved he was too dumb to be president?

You're being intentionally stubborn, or stupid here. That was not the same thing. Nixon's taped conversations were under subpeona, he really didn't have another play at that point.

Trump was under no such pressure to fire Comey.

It's also worth noting that Nixon didn't have to contend with a 24 hour news cycle on 25 different TV stations and a deep state leaking his every move to the press. So he probably thought he could get away with it.

A guilty Trump could not make the same assumption. 1) He has less privacy than Nixon and 2) He can ask google "what happened when Nixon did this"?

[Poopadoop]

Try using facts or logic to change my mind

You already know the facts so there's no point trying really.

[Poopadoop]

Trump won because open minded independent thinkers were put off by being called mindless sheep whenever they deviated from the preferred progressive narrative.

Also, it 's just a lame argument to begin with. It's like saying the people who voted for Hillary did it 'cause they were sick of being called cucks. Iow, you're putting the cart before the horse.

[BananaStand]

Also, it 's just a lame argument to begin with. It's like saying the people who voted for Hillary did it 'cause they were sick of being called cucks. Iow, you're putting the cart before the horse.

You're missing the point.

If you're not for open borders, you're a racist.

If you don't support feminism (in its current militant form), you're a misogynist

If you're for tax cuts, you hate poor people

If you're in the middle class and you're upset about your health care costs going up 5,000%, you're an elitist.

If you're successful it's because you were unfairly privileged.

If you accept that the first amendment also applies to conservative messages, you're a fucking fascist.

And if you don't fall in line, you're hateful, selfish, entitled, and bigoted.

We had that for eight years under Obama, and it really started before that in the 90's under Clinton. And the people who got lumped into each group all had one thing in common.....they are the people who pay the bills in this country. Trump tapped into their anger and offered them a candidate who refused to be politically correct if it meant sacrificing sound capitalist policies.

Yet there are many many people on the left, still mindlessly marching in step with the progressive drumbeat of identity politics. And in a stunning example of irony, point to the opposition as 'mindless sheep' bowing to the manipulations of racists, misogynists, and the rest of the deplorables. That inability to engage in an intellectual fact-based debate has weakened the political message of the democratic party.

And that's how Trump got elected.

[spoonitnow]

Trump won because open minded independent thinkers were put off by being called mindless sheep whenever they deviated from the preferred progressive narrative.

There's a pretty significant amount of evidence to support this.

[Poopadoop]

Sounds like you guys are real victims.

[BananaStand]

Sounds like you guys are real victims.

I'm white, male, middle class, educated, and my penis is huge.

I am everything the left hates, and their war against me has finally come to an end.

[Poopadoop]

I'm white, male, middle class, educated, and my penis is huge.

I am everything the left hates, and their war against me has finally come to an end.

The left hates your penis? LOL