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    He's going to whitewash this whole Cameron thing, watch.
    Let's say he does. Who's the corrupt bastard? Boris or Cameron? The answer, of course, is both. In 20 years or whatever, you'll be hating whoever the current Tory PM is, especially when he whitewashes the Boris corruption accusations.

    Of course, you're entitled to your opinion, I just don't see him as worse or better than previous PMs, at least going back as far as Blair. Blair and Brown both corrupt as fuck, Cameron too, these guys have wars on their hands too, Perhaps May can be left out of this conversation, but probably not. She was a fucking idiot, at the very least.

    10 years of austerity and real-value wages have dropped every single year since the Tories took over. I would worry about their economics if I were Joe Public, not labour's.
    This comes back to our disagreement about "competence". I think they have very skilfully convinced the public that such measures are necessary. People think they have a choice between austerity or magic money tree. Of course the irony there is that we've created more money out of thin air these last 18 month than probably the rest of our history.
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    ongies gonna ong
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    This comes back to our disagreement about "competence". I think they have very skilfully convinced the public that such measures are necessary. People think they have a choice between austerity or magic money tree.
    Think you're giving them too much credit for being 3D chess masters here. Rupert Murdoch is the one convincing people the Tories are good. It's no different than Fox News convincing 40% of Americans Trump was their saviour. It's not anything they're doing themselves obviously. Part of it too is like you say Boris can come across as a likeable guy, and none of his predecessors had any charisma whatsoever.
    I just think we should suspend judgment on Boris until we have all the facts through an inquiry, police investigation, and parliamentary commission...then we should explode him.
    also,
    I'd like to be called Lord Poopy His Most Gloriously Excellent.

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